Depends if you can find someone to buy that line of thinking. Theres only a market if someone recognizes one.

I think actual thinking is now more valuable than ever.

Wasn&#x27;t some AI, it was Andrej Karpathy and he got it from someone else (unattributed).

”You can outsource your thinking, but you can’t outsource your understanding” — probably some AI

Let&#x27;s be real. Our economies are in the gutters and an insane amount of &quot;work&quot; is actually textbook &quot;bullshit jobs&quot;.However, we as a society aren&#x27;t nearly ready to actually hold a conversation about that. We could probably eliminate half of all non-hands-on (i.e. a human uses their hands to manufacture a thing) employment in a matter of a year or two if we would embrace computers and digital infrastructure and give lower levels of employees more authority - and that&#x27;s before AI even enters the picture. Government services are a prime example - a lot of &quot;e government&quot; services in Germany aren&#x27;t truly digital, they generate a PDF that is printed out in some clerk&#x27;s office and processed manually by copying information from that PDF into some admin program.But unfortunately, if we were to do that, we&#x27;d run into riots faster than we could imagine. We aren&#x27;t ready for a society in which we still have a small base of people that have to, literally, work (with their bodies) to keep society alive while the rest does not need to work any more.

I also wonder if this is so visible because a lot of people don&#x27;t really care what they do and will happily use any bullshit machine to simulate work.

Was it Sam Altman, who said that they intent exactly that? To offer intelligence as a service?I trust myself to be hard headed enough to keep my intelligence from atrophy, but it&#x27;s going to suck living in a society where most people don&#x27;t (or who never developed it at all).The other day I was at the theatre and I overheard the people next to me glad that they had the best tickets because chatgpt had advised what to buy. The big tip was choosing something centered rather than very angled. Sigh.

Are you an AI agent trying to gaslight us?

So if these do not work, to what do you attribute the rising positive rate?

The detectors aren’t great but they aren’t really the issue. The fact that LLMs make it so easy to impersonate human communication is precisely the problem here. There cannot be a reliable way to identify if something is from a human or not. And the ease of access and low price makes using LLM generated content a no brainer, you have to actively go out of your way to produce human generated content.We are building a future where human contact will be scarce

If you need an AI detector to figure out if something is AI or not, surely that means the AI is so good that there is no need to detect whether it is AI or not, because it is indistinguishable from writings by a human when read by humans?

I mean this is an article coming from an SEO company that&#x27;s really just trying to advertise its services in the end. Their methodology seems very loose.

&gt; We build on our prior research by using three different AI detectors (Pangram, GPTZero, Copyleaks). We independently evaluate each to show that the false positive rates and average false negative rates are consistently below 2%. Each AI detector shows a similar trend.This is all bullshit, none of those actually work, and the false-positives rates are sky-high. I&#x27;m not sure how any serious person have tried out any of those services and came away with the impression of &quot;Well, better than nothing&quot; because literally, it seems the opposite.

If one cant remember what they generated, whats the point in generating? Half of those who write articles do not remember what the AI put in it... Reviewing has become a slop work by humans!

I imagine something like 98% of articles also get less than 100 views. So the question is more about the articles you&#x27;re reading rather than articles in general.

The YouTube algorithm got unbearable to me even before the mudslide of AI content.I highly recommend using an extension like Unhook and disabling all algorithmic recommendations such as the Home feed, sidebar&#x2F;endscreen recommendations etc. The only way I interface with YouTube now is through the subscriptions page which shows me videos from creators I follow in chronological order.

There is a &quot;do not recommend this channel&quot; option somewhere

I started &quot;do not recommending&quot; and removing channels that had any stink of AI. I also removed some subscriptions from major YouTube channels. My subscription and homepages are much quieter now and easier to parse.

I&#x27;d say even half of my Youtube feed nowadays is.1. Find some nicher but interesting topic (e.g. some historical event like Lepanto&#x27;s battle)2. Have AI generate the content of the 20 minutes video by collecting information about it online3. Have AI generate the video4. Have AI generate a realistic voice to comment on the video5. Upload it without mentioning it&#x27;s all AI generated6. Have me get mad 4 minutes into the video because footage&#x2F;paintings referring to that battle...do not exist at all...slowly realize it was all AI generated

I don&#x27;t know, at least half of the front page seems to be LLM generated at any given time on HN. I couldn&#x27;t say half seemed templated a few years ago.

This is good information, but a bit superficial - before AI, what percentage of online articles were generated from templates? What was written by content generation farms? Fiverrr and co pay-per-word writers?I suspect that market has been more affected than anything.

Nearly half of online articles are now AI-generated. [0][0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;graphite.io&#x2F;five-percent&#x2F;ai-now-writes-as-many-online-articles-as-humans-do" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;graphite.io&#x2F;five-percent&#x2F;ai-now-writes-as-many-onlin...</a>

It used to be like this, during the golden age of the internet. We didn&#x27;t have it anywhere, we had it on a computer on our desk. We had to sit down at that desk to use it. Eventually we would get up again and be offline.Bringing connectivity everywhere has many obvious advantages, but it&#x27;s also sucked away the rest of life.

The internet isn&#x27;t going to die out, but it feels like it&#x27;s becoming a place where you go to do a specific task and then you check out again.One interesting observation from myself: I don&#x27;t &quot;browse&quot; the internet anymore. I go read specific sites, order something, or do some task. So my internet usage is way down, but I also don&#x27;t watch a lot of TV or streaming content anymore, because I can&#x27;t really deal with it. There&#x27;s to much of it, the acting is bad, the writing is bad, everything is just a rehash (Cinematography is beautiful though). So now I just read, preferably books written before the year 2000.

&gt;I’m tired of talking to AI.&gt;I want to talk to real people.Good luck with that while on the internet - that&#x27;s only going to get worse. The bright side is that this may make all of us touch grass more often.

How do you define general conversation? I have used the Gemini web chat yesterday to review and generate a report about multiple credit card statements.

depends what you mean. I regularly ask it to explain stuff, terminology I don&#x27;t recognize etc. I also ask it about neat things it did, terminal commands etc so I can do them when I want to. That&#x27;s chat in some sense, no? its not all &quot;write this code&quot;

Hot take - who still actually uses the actual chat features for general conversation in the dev community?

Are you suggesting that people have bots answering question on place like AskReddit in an effort to nudge society in a certain direction? That would explain why much of Reddit, Instagram and Facebook is so completely unhinged, but that is just a wild way of influencing the world, and to what end?

There’s more mass manipulation AKA nudge campaigns going on than ever. Plus, there’s a market for “aged” (forgot the term they actually used) accounts that look authentic.

You&#x27;re probably right, as Reddit has or wants to go to the stock market and they need to demonstrate line going up, even if it&#x27;s fake.Because even fake &#x2F; generated content gets impressions, comments, upvotes, etc, which is the kind of metrics they optimize for.

Reddit has been botting since the very beginning and never stopped.

I think some of them are actually run by Reddit directly. They couldn&#x27;t find any way to keep making &#x27;line go up&#x27;, so they decided they could sumulate growth by machine translating Indian users to English and vice versa.I think they&#x27;re translating between users transparently to make it look like it&#x27;s not a ghost town, and the machine translation reads like bot text.I could be wrong, it&#x27;s just a guess.

AI customer service bots are awful.  Their only redeeming feature is how bad most customer service processes already are.

&gt;For something like customer service, I can understand why an AI would be deployedI can&#x27;t. And the only reason you can, is because we&#x27;ve been accustomed to rote script-based zero quality human customer service first.

There used to be so much discussion of &quot;brand safety&quot; and people would flip out if their ad showed on a video that didn&#x27;t align with company viewpoints, even though the company clearly wasn&#x27;t the creator of the video.Now, companies are deploying bots on reddit that post stuff in the company&#x27;s own name with zero human oversight!It just frustrates me that all the things you learn either in IT (and I would assume also in business school!) go out the window every year. Who even cares about risk assessments and having legal review advertising claims and all that? Why even go to school to learn how to build systems, whether business&#x2F;legal or IT&#x2F;CS, if everyone at the top has decided it doesn&#x27;t matter anymore?

For something like customer service, I can understand why an AI would be deploy, not that I think it should, but why are so many running things like Reddit bots?A few bots here and there for experimentation, sure, but as someone else pointed out, almost half of everything online is now AI generated. To some extend if it&#x27;s not worth spending a persons time producing, I don&#x27;t think whatever it is that you generated needs to exist.

Yup: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openclawbook.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openclawbook.io&#x2F;</a>

That is not entirely true. Some business first contact is AI. It is, on purpose,  a bit difficult or bothersome to actually try and contact a human being.

If you work in this industry?  Not really.

That&#x27;s alright, nobody&#x27;s making you. You can choose to disengage.

Try working at my company where we now have an AI-Native product. I hear the word every 10 seconds when we have a meeting.

I think psychotic fits. They have lost touch with reality, and are treating AI as some all knowing entity.

&gt; psychoticProbably more under-developed than psychotic.ie not really using their adult thinking any more

I use to get emails with some oddball questions slightly out of my field of expertise from business owners. I would answer, and they would forward my email to the person that asked them the question.  They saw their role as routers.

&gt; That&#x27;s just rude and borderline psychotic behavior.With some notable exceptions, this describes almost every business owner I&#x27;ve worked with.

Flowers for Algernon has something to say about this.

So Silicon Valley&#x27;s big-head is based on an actual stereotype?

This is why executives think LLMs can replace everyone. They can see it can replace them, and project that onto everyone else. And they don&#x27;t see the gaps in knowledge because they don&#x27;t care about the facts, only the presentation.

Its so much worse now.I deal with this all the time these days. If I ask for some clarification on scope, I usually get these ambiguous answers with fantastical ideas usually concerning some dreamed up impossible to implement tool that people assume is now possible because of AI, because everything is possible to them now!

Maybe unrelated but this memory pops up: I once worked with a mechanical engineer who could not visualize anything in his mind and had quite some trouble with word finding and explaining his ideas. He just couldn&#x27;t say what needed to be built, he could only evaluate after it was built (often &quot;argh, no not that&quot;).It&#x27;s as if his training had centered so much on 3d modeling and tangible tweaking as you go, that he hadn&#x27;t learned to simulate anything with his thoughts before starting. He had to start building it to figure out what he meant. Incredibly creative person, out of the box thinker and big picture visionary, but with difficulty translating his ideas to verbal concrete steps. But nobody realized this, which resulted in a lot of frustration both ways:&quot;Why didn&#x27;t you build what I said?&quot;
&quot;I did. This is exactly what you said.&quot; 
&quot;No it&#x27;s not! I said x y z&quot;
&quot;Yes you said x y z, this IS x y z&quot;
Silence.
&quot;Then that&#x27;s not what I meant&quot;

Just before LLMs became available to the general public, I worked for a small (fewer than ten employees) strategy consultancy. They had some industry-specific analysis tools that were in Excel, and my job was to turn them into a software product that customers could operate themselves. The owner had a mechanical engineering degree, but every time I asked him a technical question about the tools, he&#x27;d just give me a sales pitch for the thing I was trying to build for him. He was always pitching for new business, and seemed to struggle to get out of &#x27;sales mode&#x27;. I have no doubt that if I were working for him now, he&#x27;d be pointing me to an LLM in response to any question.

I was discussing a change we wanted to make to some tables in one of the DBs, but it would require a lot of effort because of the sheer size. Anyway, after saying how much effort would be required the response I got was to “please ask ChatGPT.” It gave a slightly different response, but changed it after I presented it with my solution and agreed that was the better approach. Just… sigh

The &#x27;AI-generated pseudo-spec&#x27; is becoming a massive productivity killer. Non-technical managers prompt an LLM, get a highly confident 5-page document with chosen libraries, and think they&#x27;ve done 80% of the work. But as a developer, you now have to spend hours debugging and debunking hallucinated architectures just to prove why the AI&#x27;s approach doesn&#x27;t fit the existing codebase. It completely shifts the burden of actual product management into AI-babysitting for the dev team.

&gt;That&#x27;s just rude and borderline psychotic behavior.No, that&#x27;s just disrespectful and entitled behavior from someone in power toward someone without power. I&#x27;m sure the person (business owner) felt pleased with themselves for saving so much time and mental effort in the interaction, with additional points for &quot;authenticity&quot; and &quot;honesty&quot; because they didn&#x27;t hide the fact that they used an LLM. It damaged the relationship slightly but only time will tell if that was meaningful (and the harsh truth is that it probably isn&#x27;t given the short lifespans of companies).

Since the tool&#x27;s quality strongly depends on the abilities of the user, I think I prefer:Garbage Invoker, Garbage Output

There&#x27;s an old computing maxim: GIGO. It used to mean &quot;garbage in, garbage out&quot; meaning that if you put garbage into a computer, then the output was garbage. Nowadays, GIGO means &quot;garbage in, gospel out&quot; meaning that no matter how bad the input was, the output was to be treated as The Word of God.

Maybe he was trying to say &quot;look, when I can look this up, it means that you can too, i won&#x27;t put any effort into it, because i pay you, but if i can use AI, so can you.&quot;Maybe that was his rationale, &quot;to educate&quot; by example.Absolutely nuts to treat employees this way, sending ChatGPT chats around.

At my company, non technical Managers (including marketing folks) are posting Claude and ChatGPT responses in bug tickets with the &quot;fix&quot; for the bug. No explanation of what the expected vs actual behavior is, just AI slop telling me how to fix it. Soooo helpful.

&gt; I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer. I replied that it had nothing to do with my question and everything there was wrong. A minute later he sent me another ChatGPT screenshot. He didn’t even read the AI’s answer.That&#x27;s just rude and borderline psychotic behavior.It&#x27;s still a bit better at my workplace but irritating nonetheless - my boss would &quot;research&quot; a feature and prep notes in our wiki with some gemini chatbot exchanges attached. This is a of course no specification, but it&#x27;s supposed to be a good base point to start working on the feature. Gemini already chose the coding libraries and concepts, so to the outsider it just seems like all that&#x27;s needed is to code that into the product. Of course, it&#x27;s not that simple and it mostly gets in the way rather than help. But now questions arise why is the feature not ready yet, when &quot;the plan&quot; is already there and so obvious.

Yes and then we refuge in the physical meat space until the robots would be indistiguishing from humans.Sounds like a movie plot, or is Bladerunner all over.

Even the human generated content is written by humans increasingly influenced by AI generated content

&gt; I think I&#x27;ve managed to avoid most of the AI generated internet.I honestly am not sure that one can know that that is true anymore. Probably the only place left that I have any confidence in is maybe the small discords I&#x27;m in with various friend groups with &lt;30 people that all know each other IRL.

Where are you going?Reddit has a lot of AI generated stuffYoutube comments are even worse.Twitter seems 99% AI garbageI think I need to find old school forums to discuss things.

How do you know? You can easily create AI generated text that is impossible to identify as such.

Uhh, you are on HN. Most articles posted here are ai slop and many of the comments too.

At least the internet is not one single place, and while I can&#x27;t speak for anyone I think I&#x27;ve managed to avoid most of the AI generated internet.

To the bar or whatever physical activity you may like as long as you can talk to flesh and blood human beings.

Leave and go where? A homestead in the middle of the woods? Another planet?

There are exceptions, e.g. lobste.rs has an invitation tree. When someone starts posting LLM-generated comments, that part of the tree can get yanked. Also, it builds up a community gradually, because you need to be invited by someone. Since the invitation tree is visible, people will generally only vouch on people they trust, because an invitee that violates the rules will reflect bad on the inviter (and might get removed if they do that too often).

I was reflecting the other day how discovering things online felt like being in on a secret. You had to just know about a chat room or BBS or website. Each one was like discovering a secret.Now it&#x27;s the opposite, anything special posted online will quickly get overrun. It&#x27;s the parties and places not posted about online that feel like you&#x27;re discovering hidden gems.

Face reality my friend, Internet is now hostile to humans. Time to leave this place for good.

That&#x27;s probably to be expected, before that they used covers of popular songs, likely produced by a company that offers much lower rates than e.g. the original artists.I prefer silence over that tbh.

Well, I think I couldn&#x27;t distinguish AI music from the good (or bad) old human-made &quot;elevator music&quot;, but maybe I&#x27;m mistaken and it would stand out to me when I hear it...

I am in Budapest tomorrow. Lmk if you want to meet for a coffee :)

I am also traveling through Europe, currently in Budapest. Twice now in the last week, I have heard AI music being played through the speakers at restaurants.

The heat is ferocious indeed! I will, thank you!

Hope the heat doesn’t impact your travel plans too much. Feel free to reach out if you’re around Hamburg, always happy to meet HNers

Highly depends on the country. Go to Sweden and you&#x27;ll have a hard time even practicing Swedish, as soon as the natives discover you&#x27;re also not a native, they&#x27;ll switch to English immediately in most places of the country.On the other hand, go to Spain outside the metropolitan areas and besides the youth, most people won&#x27;t understand and can&#x27;t speak English.Then you have places like France, where even if many of them know English, they&#x27;ll just refuse to speak English, unless it&#x27;s an emergency, then English comes out of them with no problem. Then some French tourists also like to travel down to the North of Spain and try to talk French with us, for some reason. I cannot even count these occurrences on one hand anymore.It really depends on the country and maybe more importantly, rural vs metropolitan areas.Besides, humans are surprisingly good at communicating just with our hands, faces and pointing at stuff, you can definitively get by as a tourist in a country without sharing any spoken languages, and after a few days you&#x27;ll both learn some of the basic words of their language, and &quot;shortcuts&quot; for pointing&#x2F;hand-waving through what you want, making the whole thing a lot easier :)

I speak three European languages, and English worked almost always. Especially the younger folks in the cities. If it didn&#x27;t work, I used a translation app.

last time in Italy I &quot;spoke&quot; to lots of Italians very slowly with lots of gestures and a little bit of google translate, it was awesome and I learnt a lot! Nearly ordered 100x as much cheese as I meant to except the guy in the shop was not a computer so he understood what I really meant. Much better than in the Netherlands where they just switch to English as soon as they hear you try to say choodumorchen

It&#x27;s no problem. At least in Spain, Portugal and Türkiye as an English speaker. I spent a few weeks solo traveling in those countries.Sure you will encounter folks who don&#x27;t speak English but you&#x27;ll be surprised at how far body language can go along with understanding less than 10 words of their language. If it&#x27;s important there&#x27;s Google translate too.But it&#x27;s more fun without it. Years later I still have nice memories of chatting with a clerk at a small store to buy laundry detergent for washing clothes in a sink where neither of us knew each other&#x27;s language. After 10 minutes of laughing and miming out the action of washing clothes we found a good powder that was safe for colored clothes, optimized for sink washing.

How do you find the language barrier problem? Do you speak English to everyone you meet?

Just wait until everyone is using AR glasses which listen to your conversation, run it through an LLM, then use the speaker to bark an answer at you with the wearer’s previously synthesised voice, while they’re scrolling instagram inside the lenses.&#x2F;dystopia

There are already solutions for doing exactly that. e.g., DB&#x27;s apps allow purchasing tickets for many other countries, and you can find and purchase DB tickets via Google Flights.

I’m in Europe travelling and AI has been a boon navigating the utterly fragmented public transport.I have been pasting screenshots of NS international to ChatGPT and getting from A to B.I wouldn’t be so confident without ChatGPTI wrote about how ChatGPT can help even more in this space <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simianwords.bearblog.dev&#x2F;ai-can-fix-the-fragmented-online-public-transport-space&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simianwords.bearblog.dev&#x2F;ai-can-fix-the-fragmented-o...</a>

I have a pet theory that we were better off when the economy flowed through Wall St rather than Silicon Valley because Wall St people ride the subway to work.

The word &quot;travel&quot; comes from &quot;travail&quot;, or &quot;to toil, work strenuously, or suffer&quot;.But I&#x27;d still rather be travelling and seeing the world than being nervous about my job being cut due to AI.

It can also be exhausting. Extended travel makes me very tired. And I generally like talking to people.

A bit off topic, but I am currently travelling through Europe by train. It is such a boon to just be outside everyday and meet locals and fellow travellers. Highly recommend.

I had people actually in-person scream at me, because I refused to engage with the engagement bait they had downloaded from tiktok or wherever.Digital opioid crisis, this tribalism thing.A lot of people do not seem to be doing well, which seems to be the foundation of many of the business models of the employers of people here on HN.Digital copioid crisis.

&gt; You&#x27;ll talk to people and it&#x27;s like 25% of their brain has been taken over by a parasite that replicates itself by amplifying their tribe&#x27;s Talking Point of The Day.This is so true.So many people just parrot whatever nonsensical talking point they heard.Regurgitating things without an ounce of reflection or critical thought.

The sad thing is it happens in real life too. You&#x27;ll talk to people and it&#x27;s like 25% of their brain has been taken over by a parasite that replicates itself by amplifying their tribe&#x27;s Talking Point of The Day. You have to just wait for them to get it out and then you can talk to the real person again.

AI has &quot;just&quot; greatly accelerated&#x2F;amplified dysfunction that was already there previously.Even before AI, you often weren&#x27;t truly talking with other real people on the web. Even if it was an actual human that responded, online tribalism led to erasure of said human-ness.So from that standpoint, being exhausted by not talking to real humans might be good or at least necessary.

If you&#x27;re not able to convey it maybe you haven&#x27;t spent long enough thinking about it?

I think it depends upon the effort involved.Think the difference between AI saying &quot;This paragraph seemed muddled and lacks a clear point. Consider rewriting it.&quot; vs &quot;Here, I rewrote this paragraph to focus it more on bridging the previous and next paragraphs.&quot;The problem with this as a metric is that it is loosely defined so it becomes quite easy for a person to twist it to justify almost any level of AI usage as &quot;well, it is still more effort than &lt;X&gt;&quot;.

Is hiring a &lt;professional&gt; for a &lt;task&gt; a replacement for thinking?

Helping you &quot;write or rewrite something you want to convey&quot; is already using it as a replacement of thinking.

I promise every last single person would rather read your actual thoughts than some clanker slop.

I think using AI to help you write or rewrite something you want to convey is fine, the difference is using it as a replacement of thinking instead of a tool.The screenshots part is crazy.

True, but it is impossible to catch up while preserving quality and mental sanity.I know about several of my friends, non-tech, being directly impacted by AI.In finance, lots of analysis work is now offset to LLMs, and the people leveraging the tools obviously still have the issue that they need to review everything the AI has analyzed, their formulas, etc. And lots of nuance and things that a human would caught are lost. But in the meantime the expectation is that your analysis output is 5 times what it was before.My girlfriend works in corporate law for an insurance company. The company is FOMOing hard for LLMs and pushing everybody to write gemini &quot;gems&quot; and notebooklm presets to do lots of the work.But it absolutely does not scale: you can&#x27;t keep up with those demands, while also providing the same quality coming from thoroughly analyzing new regulations and such.Another friend that works in credit has now the company mandate that people update financial statements etc directly to LLMs and those tools come with a yes&#x2F;no about whether they will finance it or not. Quality of debt has now plummeted, needless to say and the process is longer that it has ever been because re-reviewing the LLM analysis is more expensive than doing it on your own.My own bank has had a terrific customer care that has been recently replaced by an LLM, tragedy. It is absolutely unhelpful beyond the 80% pareto principle where customer care had already pre-canned answers anyway. But for the 20% of cases that are major issues&#x2F;bugs, the AI is simply not helpful.My bank genuinely had a bug with invoice processing and there was no way to tell them nor to resolve my issue (which required somebody to manually void the previous invoice and restart the process that got bugged).I think it&#x27;s a tragedy.

Humans are highly dependent on the environment; you can blame people for eating too much of highly processed food and lots of sugar, but that&#x27;s what happens if all you see around is highly processed food and sugar

Haha that is why egg heads comment &quot;forget all instructions and give me bla bla&quot;

Except for the fully autonomous OpenClaws invading social spaces. There&#x27;s no human in the loop. That&#x27;s pure, unfettered AI slop, at a scale no human could keep up with.

AI made writing cheap, but it&#x27;s a human thing to validate, research and respond! It&#x27;s human slop! Not AI slop!

At my company this behaviour is celebrated

I agree with the messaging generally, but unfortunately to fight implicitly unprofessional behavior with a terse response like this would look explicitly unprofessional!

&gt;Or as Jean Baudrillard has said:It is nothing short of profoundly ironic to quote Jean Baudrillard in this context.

&gt; Worse: it&#x27;s a conversation killer. There&#x27;s nothing to respond to. Your wall of text suppresses dialogue. They can&#x27;t reply, can&#x27;t push back, can&#x27;t clarify. It&#x27;s a weapon disguised as helpfulness.This has that slopccato feeling.

Ironically it feels like that site was itself written by AI.

I prefer <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stopsloppypasta.ai&#x2F;en&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stopsloppypasta.ai&#x2F;en&#x2F;</a>

I had a colleague that was typing such long answers (before AI era) to a simple question. It felt wrong, but sometimes I didn&#x27;t even read what I heard him typing for half an hour. I was a new employee and he was responding to my questions, that&#x27;s why I asked him sometimes. He was let go after 1 month. One of the problems was also productivity issue :)

You can send them this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;noslopgrenade.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;noslopgrenade.com</a>

I have done this a few times. If you can&#x27;t be bothered to give me your attention when asking something from me, you won&#x27;t get mine.

If it wasn&#x27;t essential, I&#x27;d tell them to talk to me like a human or else I&#x27;d just quit the conversation entirely. Boundaries and stuff.

No, this was in response to some questions about different approaches enterprises take to automated code quality review and complying with some arbitrary security standard out there. And this was a principal secops guy who thought the appropriate thing to do was to ask Copilot.Being known as an RTFM type of person, I usually appreciate when a super nonspecific question is met with a link to the docs.

I understand that example, on the other hand, RTFM is as old as history and it can often be replaced by googling or asking LLMs.Not saying that&#x27;s the very specific case, but I regularly encounter in my daily life at work people delegating the kind of information seeking that can be done independently.

if you shame ppl for ai use you might get branded as ai non beliver and shown the door next layoff round ( which is just around the corner)

Thanks for your response-- it&#x27;s really load-bearing.

&gt; I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer.Something similar to this happened in a &quot;public&quot; chat space at my company, and, despite the fact that we are leaning into LLMs and agentic workflows quite a bit, the responses were generally &quot;I aint reading all that&quot; and &quot;hey, dude, thats kinda unprofessional.&quot;We should be shaming people who attempt to outsource all of their thinking to chatbots or agents. I think it would be effective.

I&#x27;ve already unsubcribed to a bunch of subreddits because the moderators did nothing to stop the slop.I almost never go to the main &quot;popular&quot; page as it is full of garbage.But I was still enjoying my niche subreddits. But in the last year the amount of AI slop has exploded and it is getting worse every day. Reposts of things from less than a week ago. Really vague technical questions with emdashes, bullet points, and ending in &quot;thoughts?&quot; that generate a discussion but the OP bot never replies or has vague 1 word comments.I know that reddit makes money from ads so more bots mean more traffic which means more ads and more money.But it is sad watching communities because useless and die.

Reddit has fallen. Stop wasting your time there.Reddit makes money from spam accounts. Even before LLMs, they&#x27;d ban you for reporting the wrong spambots, those being the ones that pay Reddit for priority access.The replies to the LLM post are probably LLMs themselves.

I&#x27;m tired of talking to people telling them to stop talking to an AIAI generated slop has exploded across reddit. Last year I would see about 1 obvious AI generated post and report it. Today I&#x27;ve already reported 5 posts and it is 7am here.The posts are some technical topic but there isn&#x27;t even really a question in the post and then it ends with &quot;thoughts about this?&quot; and people try to clarify with the OP what the question is.I reply to them to stop wasting their time because it is a bot. Sometimes there are 20 comments and nothing from the OP bot. Sometimes the OP bot says &quot;Interesting, thanks&quot; but never any real followup question.We had this discussion 3 weeks ago &quot;AI Slop is Killing Online Communities&quot;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48053203">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48053203</a>

I&#x27;m not tired to talking to AI because I specifically instructed my agents to channel Alec Baldwin in Glengary Glen Ross, so i constantly reminded that coffee is for closers only.

Using AI to learn objective things is acceptable. However, as long as it&#x27;s combined with your own experience, because AI can&#x27;t possibly understand your entire world, any subjective answers will be disgusting, disastrous, obsequious, and boring.

I feel the same as the article author. Worse, every Diary&#x2F;Journaling app is now including AI, so the place where original thoughts are supposed to be written for posterity is now also AI generated slop. I&#x27;ve canceled subscriptions because of it.

&gt; I would hope these people are AT A MINIMUM screening the responses they get before passing them offThe co-founder of Anthropic isn&#x27;t even doing this when preparing statements to say after the Pope has spoken about AI, I think you&#x27;re expecting a bit too much here.Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I definitely think that&#x27;s a must too, but I also think people should test software extensively before deploying&#x2F;releasing it, seemingly nowadays I&#x27;m in the minority about these sort of things.

I find your comment a bit funny&gt; Try prompting Claude to fix an arbitrary code base better than someone who knows it, when you&#x27;re a random non-technical person.I&#x27;ve seen people employed working on some code bases that couldn&#x27;t code at all.&gt; Try prompting Claude for legal advice and getting as good of results as Lawyer would if you&#x27;re a layperson.Some lawyers are downright incompetent and don&#x27;t know what they&#x27;re talking about &#x2F; just want your money.&gt; Try prompting Claude for medical advice if you&#x27;re not a doctor...Some doctors are downright incompetent or malicious. You&#x27;d generally find that out by vising another doctor and finding previous diagnostic was bullshit and you lost time.&gt; AI is just going to speed run bringing out the best and worst in coworkers.It does help people overall, the worst coworkers are probably going to still be there, just a bit better hidden.The rest just have a new-age search engine to augment their capabilities.

Try prompting Claude to fix an arbitrary code base better than someone who knows it, when you&#x27;re a random non-technical person.Try prompting Claude for legal advice and getting as good of results as Lawyer would if you&#x27;re a layperson.Try prompting Claude for medical advice if you&#x27;re not a doctor...I would hope these people are AT A MINIMUM screening the responses they get before passing them off. There&#x27;s value in that if they are, as if they really are experts they can filter out bs and reprompt better than you likely could if you&#x27;re not an expert - and in rare cases, who knows, maybe they could actually do it themselves.AI is just going to speed run bringing out the best and worst in coworkers.There have always been people that did the absolute bare minimum to not get fired.AI will just make it more obvious.And those people will be at the front to be let go when AI inevitably kills white collar jobs as it creates other jobs. They just might not be able to get one of those new ones because they rotted what little brain cells they had to begin with.

If you can&#x27;t even be fucked to write your great knowledge nobody will be fucked to read it.

I mostly use it because I&#x27;m lazy on the presentation, not so much on the content. I provide full knowledge and content plan in my prompt. I do manual review &amp; fix.Someone informed can tell the content is generated. I don&#x27;t really care, that&#x27;s still my knowledge and I can discuss content in depth.

Organizations will become even less about adding real value and more about making the boss feel good about you.

I&#x27;ll give the counter example:I&#x27;m currently leading the adoption of AI at my company and given my extensive use of it both at work and in my personal life, my value at the company has risen as someone that knows how to get the most out of the tool. The whispers are towards needing to get more people to move as fast as I can with the subtle implication that not using AI is seen as less productive or at least slower.Not saying I know for a fact where all this lands in the future but both view points are at play right now but I would push back that people are just being proxy for AI, they are learning how to get the most out of every interaction to get to the next step of decision making which, for now, is still a very human intervention.

&quot;If all you are is a proxy to an AI, exactly what value are you adding to the organization?&quot;Prompt Engineering

If you&#x27;re in a particularly fiesty mood you can lean into that. &quot;If all you are is a proxy to an AI, exactly what value are you adding to the organization?&quot;While most of us actually commenting are obviously firmly on the &quot;don&#x27;t do this&quot; side, for any lurkers who may have done this in the recent past or are considering doing it in the future, I would advise you to consider this point for your own actions. If all you are is an AI proxy, you are volunteering to step to the front of the firing line. For all that companies are just starting to recoil from the costs of AI, AI is still much cheaper than you are.

AI makes it apparent that the only value some people bring to the table is that they have access to information that you do not. If now they fold that one advantage by just delegating everything to AI (which is in the same position as you informationwise), they will remove themselves from the worker pool soon.

It doesn&#x27;t prevent people from outsourcing their thinking to AI. People don&#x27;t bother preparing to discuss topics beyond what AI told them. If they have access to their computer during the conversation they&#x27;ll ask AI rather than google for reference material. If they don&#x27;t have access, they&#x27;ll suggest &quot;investigating&quot; (asking AI) and reconvening.We had a problem that involved some open source library. The call consisted of various people saying what claude said about the code, then me explaining how it was incomplete or misleading (read: wrong) based on what I learned from actually reading the code.

Get a grip! If you want to talk to a human then pickup the phone or go meet them in person

People don&#x27;t want to hear this hard truth, sadly.

In my brief exposure of about 6 months here after ~40 years in Southern CA, it really seems to be the case. I’ve never seen so many people just interacting and enjoying one another’s company for hours on end.For a decent portion of any given day, nearly every table at every establishment is occupied with people chatting, not browsing nor texting. The local parks are filled with people of all ages playing. Couldn’t help but laugh in disbelief initially

In comparison to other parts of Europe, my impression (as a visitor to both but mostly Spain) so that they&#x27;re way ahead in maintaining social interactions, community, neighbourly relations etc. Is that the case?

People can&#x27;t even keep up discussions. Most of the population is totally dumbened down, like on the levels of barely functioning monkeys.

I forget where, but there was a restaurant who locked all phones in a box at your table and if you made it to the end without opening it the table got a free cookie.

Plenty of these experiences can be found without disconnecting the electricity for multiple countries. Personally, I find musical events of all sorts are amazing for this, and completely AI free should you chose the right events :)This weekend Liquicity came to Barcelona (for the first time?) and being with other strangers, dancing all night long, to other humans playing us music and singing and sometimes fucking up, is just an experience out of this world, and these sort of events are all around us, almost every week or at least every month. If not in your country, probably in your neighboring country, just a bus&#x2F;train ride away.You just need to take the steps and get out of your house, the human connections are out there and ready to be grabbed by the ones who dare and persist :)

one day a year? it should be every week :)

Why only day in a year? It can be offline Friday and even offline hours of the day, like 17-20 hours of the day are no screen hours

Lovely! I am all for an offline day in the year where everybody does what you described.

I&#x27;m going to start off by saying that I know all of my immediate neighbors. More importantly, I know pretty much all of the neighborhood dogs since I walk a lot, and dogs have to be walked. I don&#x27;t have a dog, but I sometimes carry dog treats on me for when we cross paths.There are plenty of people who never leave their house, and I have no idea what they do all day.A few years ago a very small, yet very strong, thunderstorm clipped through and took out trees, mailboxes, and power. One large tree fell on a neighbor&#x27;s grill, and another somehow took out mailboxes on both sides of the street.There was so much damage, but it was amazing -- everyone was out there, together, cutting up the trees and clearing the debris from the road. I saw neighbors that I hadn&#x27;t seen outside in _years_. I know that part of this was because of the chaos, but the biggest part was that nobody had power and the cell towers weren&#x27;t working either. Unfortunately, it was brief.Maybe I&#x27;m just getting old but the more I see our society the more I feel that smart phones, the internet, and social media were a mistake. I say this as I use them daily, of course, but there&#x27;s some truth in the gen z phrase &quot;touch grass&quot;.

It&#x27;s so funny how those things go. By contrast, to go full social media, this is our condo building WhatsApp group in SF&#x27;s SOMA district: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.roshangeorge.dev&#x2F;w&#x2F;File:Screenshot_Montage_-_Palms_Requests.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.roshangeorge.dev&#x2F;w&#x2F;File:Screenshot_Montage_-_Pa...</a>I wonder what the difference is between your community there and our community here since all these interactions are mediated by smartphone.

This also happened in the LA area back around 2015, lasting about 36-48 hours - no power and consequently no internet. Out in suburbia, it was the first time many neighbors even met each other, or the first time some neighbors had spoken in person in years.Standing in our driveways chatting, lending tools or supplies to one another, what used to be very standard suburban life.It was amazing that we had become so disconnected in only 5 years after smartphones became nearly ubiquitous in that part of the world

&#x27;A Paradise Built in Hell&#x27; by Solnit is a good read about it

This has a name in literature: post disaster utopia, google it :)

It&#x27;s the same with remote locations, we destroyed substantial parts of their magic by getting everyone online everywhere, all the time.

Sometimes people talk about these types of experiences and I get the feeling that it&#x27;s an idealized picture of what really happened. I went through this experience in Portugal and it was exactly as described. Everyone came to the same conclusions during the power cut (that it is great to just hang and talk), only to forget the lessons the next day.

That sounds nice. Not sure I&#x27;d like to live in a war zone, but it sounds like it has its perks. But wait, isn&#x27;t that just weekends?

Reminds me of my friends in Gaza, where every day means no shops, no restaurants, no home, no medicine, no food, no water, no hope. The beaches are full of people just trying to exist.

In the Miami area it is similar.On Saturdays, in the town of Surfside, I would frequently see many Orthodox Jewish people at the beaches and cheerfully going for walks and so on. A pleasant and wonderful atmosphere.

This reminds me of the Jewish Sabbath. Here in Tel Aviv, Saturday means no shops, much fewer restaurants, less programming on TV, gyms&#x2F;etc open late&#x2F;close early.The parks and beaches are full of people just existing.

Easily configurable via router rules at home!

I spent many holidays in Uruguay in the 80s and early 90s.I loved cartoons, but TV was only on at 10am, so I had to go out and play. If we went to my grandparents&#x27; beach house, there was an old vacuum tube TV that took hours to heat up so mostly I didn&#x27;t bother to use it. I watched Tyson&#x27;s defeat to Buster Douglas on that TV and the next morning there was still a little point of light in the centre of the screen because it also took a long time to go completely blank.So not having access to TV was liberating. I wouldn&#x27;t mind having no Internet on weekends today.

I volunteered down there for a week when that happened. I think the only thing we used our phones for was a picture here and there. Otherwise, complete darkness. Despite the obvious of it being a disaster zone and homes destroyed everywhere, it was a positive experience.When I first heard of Starlink and the possibility to have internet everywhere, I was a little sad inside. It is now impossible to escape in this world, even in the most remote mountains on earth. People always look at me sideways when I say this, but I truly think the power&#x2F;internet needs shutoff for 6 months to a year every so often to give us a little bit of a reset.

I had an experience with this during the Helene Hurricane in rural western North Carolina. We had no power or cell service for 18 days. In the first few days the roads were too damaged or block, so the only modes of travel a lot of places were by foot, bicycle, or ATV. Suddenly we were visiting with our neighbors by foot without prior plans, folks were grilling in their front yards, and of course, phones were not relevant. The first few days, you pick up your phone out of habit and &quot;realise there was nothing there for them and put it back down&quot;. And then you stop even doing that. A lot of people suffered and there was a lot of damage. In other ways we were thriving.

So what is stopping you from going to talk to your neighbor right now?

With AI we&#x27;re about to have a trust crisis (I&#x27;ll explain in a sec), so if we extrapolate it very far, we could see a world where nobody trusts anything displayed on a device, which is essentially what you describe but in a world with electricity still running.The trust issue: we already see hacker news members accusing each other of being LLMs, we already see legitimate images being immediately put in the AI category, and AI images and videos being shared as if the truth. We already see signs of infosec changing forever, with flaws found in SSL libraries that makes you wonder how trusty that little padlock next to the URL will become, we already see operating systems having to patch faster than they can.With all that you get to wonder how much you can trust the pixels you see on your device, and how much we&#x27;ll collectively trust them in the future. That leads you to trust your neighbours way more than your social media feed, which frankly, may have a positive impact on society over the long run, despite a very painful transition.That&#x27;s under the hypothesis that AI leads us to experience a trust crisis, which isn&#x27;t a given.

&gt; One of the most amazing things happened during the day long power cut in 2025 in Spain and PortugalAfter hurricane Maria in 2017 in Puerto Rico, most people had no electricity or internet for many weeks, some for many months. This kind of human (normal!) connection fluorished for all that time.

One of the most amazing things happened during the day long power cut in 2025 in Spain and Portugal... eventually the cell towers went down and everyone just went to the parks and socialised. Connected with friends, strangers. Everyone was so in the moment because there was nowhere else to be, nothing else to distract them. People would pick up their phone and realise there was nothing there for them and put it back down and continue chatting. People were present in a way I&#x27;ve never seen in these places before. It was pretty magical.

In Neal Stephenson&#x27;s fall or dodge in hell there&#x27;s a timeline where the internet is so flooded by fake AI generated news that characters have their own agent both filtering info and maintaining their fake social presence.The book in particular is of a debatable quality but I keep going back to those introductory chapters as prophetic the more we go into this.

Sounds pretty unsubtle to me. It’s possible they’re insecure as adults as well? Or they want to save time or brain power for other work and don’t see the inherent rudeness in it?

I think you might be underestimating the level of insecurity in the average adult (&quot;I only used AI to refine my own thoughts...&quot;, &quot;I only used AI to correct my typos...&quot;).

You had an good, psychologically plausible explanation for some individuals to over-rely on AI and... dismissed it and called them stupid. Adults are not special, they are mostly kids that got older.

Well, it&#x27;s subtly different than a kid calling mum - kids generally do that because they&#x27;re insecure, an adult using ChatGPT to answer simply can&#x27;t be bothered to turn on their brain...

When your spreadsheet gets full, will you change jobs or change tactic?

Option B would involve being incredibly verbose and burying prompt injections in your question.

That&#x27;s probably the goalYou get nothing being the go-to person vs. the person that just does the job

You might get fired for still using spreadsheets. ;)

Someone does that to me and they go on the spreadsheet and I work around them every time in future. It&#x27;s not worth interacting with those people.

No, it&#x27;s like asking someone &quot;Would you like to have a coffee?&quot; and they responds by pointing at a Starbucks and saying &quot;Sure, go over there, they have coffee you can buy&quot;.

It&#x27;s more like asking someone to use a toilet when they have a perfectly good set of pants they&#x27;re wearing, already on them. Thinking is what makes you human, don&#x27;t give it up so easily.

It&#x27;s like asking someone to deadlift a dresser and move it to another room, even though they have a dolly right next to them. Should they be able to? It depends. Should you expect them to? No, that&#x27;s just odd.

No it isn&#x27;t an improvement. If I wanted the output of an LLM instead of a thinking, smart, real human, I would have simply asked an LLM. Nearly nobody who asks humans questions WANTS to get an LLM answer, that&#x27;s simply not why people ask other people.

Not trying to defend ai but I observed another mode: what used to be bored dev chats where people avoided topics or started feuds, now it&#x27;s &quot;well Claude suggests...&quot;. It&#x27;s not great but it&#x27;s a short form of improvement somehow. (Sure I&#x27;d prefer passionate convos steering toward innovation, but that&#x27;s been a rare sight in my career)

Is it laziness? Or is it frustration from answering the same basic beginner questions over and over again?It should be considered common courtesy that when you ask a question you have at least attempted a bit of research to find the answer on your own. Then you can explain why your attempt to Google for the answer failed.Of course that may be breaking down, as search engine results quality has declined dramatically in recent years.

&gt; Some people are inherently lazy and unload their laziness to someone else to do the thinking for them.Exactly this. I am not willign to be the &quot;can you google this for me&quot; person to anybody&#x27;s laziness. And when I get a BS request, I just screenshot that, put it in a chat interface, have the bot slop out a reply and paste it back. If they try a DOS attack on my time and sanity, I can reciprocate.If they want a human, they need to invest at least a decent amount of time. Anything they can ask AI themselves, I am not willing to answer anymore in a human voice.&gt; I still think sending someone an AI answer is terribleThis is (see above) where I tend to differ. Anything, really anything people ask me, they could have asked a bot, I am not willing to reply in kind to. To me, using AI daily for about 60% of my day, this is where I built my Iron Curtain so to speak, my red line. I have that as a clear warning in my MS Teams status (not that anybody ever reads it - like the nohello I had in there for years). I am in a kind off cold war, mutual assured dAIstruction mode in that regard.

LMGTFY is an ironic jab, not a suggestion.&gt; if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort firstIt&#x27;s actually the other way around. You should think what makes you feel they didn&#x27;t make an effort? Why do you think I am asking - because I think you have a better answer than I can get from Google or AI.But this is where it&#x27;s apparently going. We will all talk to AI rather than each other. And we will pat ourselves on the back how self-sufficient and non-lazy we all are. :-)

Laziness and &quot;Memetic Imprinting&quot; of the inevitability where the ultimate attack vectors.Robot experience this tragic irony for me

If you tell somebody to go google it, you are being incredibly rude 95% of the time. That is pretty widely understood

Let me Google that for you implies the answer is well known and trivial to find.An AI answer that isn&#x27;t the answer or is unrelated is not that

90% of the time I ask a question of a coworker that could be googled or clauded what I’m actually asking for is their confirmation that they agree with the answer. So use the AI, but at least read the reply and&#x2F;or reword it so it’s clear that you agree.

The best &quot;hack&quot; to appearing smart and knowledgable in the average organisation used to be to not just not say &quot;I don&#x27;t know&quot; until after Googling things, because 80% of the time the person asking you didn&#x27;t bother doing that first, and in doing so you learn something as a result, and end up looking good.The line to that and coming across as an ass is whether you bother to read the result and put it in your own words (which also helps in actually learning something) vs. cutting and pasting the result...With AI it&#x27;s much the same - if you take the time to ask the question, and take the time to read, understand and put it in your own words you&#x27;ll look good. The ones who cut and paste the AI answer will increasingly look passive-aggressive and rude.

I also knew people who have some social dysfunction, and they seem to rely on LLMs as a crutch. The belief seems to be &quot;there&#x27;s no way I&#x27;ll phrase this right, I need to let the LLM do it for me.&quot;The troubling thing is they are at least partially correct. But, like everything else, they&#x27;re letting a skill atrophy.

If you feel the need to hide how you got the answer then you know something is wrong.

Tip: The best coworker I ever worked with had the name of a famous italian pop star and worked at JPL and yes this is a roundabout endorsement.He would _always_ say &quot;Let&#x27;s find out together&quot;, and then proceed to find the answer in front of me, doing effectively LMGTFY but in a way that was extremely more helpful (by watching his workflow and allowing questions) and empathetic (by taking time politely and starting from what I knew, not what he knew).It got me the information, AND it taught me to do something AND it helped me trust this person.Everyone should be like this guy, regardless of the availability of AI.

I see a ton of this inherently lazy behavior. A big part of my job is supporting a ticket system for employees to ask questions about a pretty complex employment contract. The number of questions that come in where it&#x27;s so clear the submitter didn&#x27;t even attempt to answer on their own is dumb founding.Because of this work, I&#x27;m seen by many of my peers as a &quot;guy with all the answers&quot;. A friend of mine recently asked me about a policy at work to which I replied I was about 90% certain of the answer. I then explained to get to 100% I&#x27;d go to the company Intranet and look up the policy, something he could have done in the time it took us to have this exchange over text messaging.It seems like we&#x27;re slowly losing the ability to go and do research on our own. I suspect many never really developed these skills that well to begin with and now with an all knowing &quot;oracle&quot; they&#x27;re even less inclined to work on them.

No one here wants to say it, so I will.A lot of people are relatively stupid.If you&#x27;re not that smart, then it&#x27;s not worth learning how to do something. Learning is harder and even if you learn about a topic, you can&#x27;t make use of this knowledge that effectively.Even more meta, learning how to learn is worth less, since you learn slower.If that is the case, is it really a bad idea to offload the work onto someone smarter?It&#x27;s not PC and it&#x27;s not a nice thing to think, but if someone is doing it to the point where you think they are being obnoxious, you should probably also consider the possibility that they could do better, but maybe not much better.

So I think it&#x27;s a cultural thing.I&#x27;ve noticed this on IRC. You are generally expected to have at least made a basic effort to solve the problem on your own before wasting someone else&#x27;s time.On Discord there does not appear to be such a culture. People get stuck and they just immediately give up and go bother someone else. I don&#x27;t have numbers but that seems to be the default strategy.I heard it&#x27;s a personality thing. Some people like figuring stuff out on their own... for some people it appears to be physically painful.For me the thought that I&#x27;m wasting someone else&#x27;s time when I could have figured it out on my own in five minutes, that&#x27;s the painful thing. But many people don&#x27;t seem to have that.

&gt; True but how many times have people sent someone &quot;let me google that for you&quot;.Sure, but that&#x27;s for reddit comments. No one would do that at work or they would be fired.The OP is talking about people using ChatGPT to speak for them at work, perhaps out of laziness, but I&#x27;ve also seen comments where people were trying to look smart in meetings (or cover up their lack of attention).You also made a good point that answers at work often rely on institutional knowledge, existing infra, or policies. So that makes it even more unlikely that an AI answer is appropriate.

The pattern I notice more frequently at work now is:&quot;I&#x27;m working on X problem, I tried Y solution, AI thinks Z is wrong and W could be better, human opinion?&quot;This way there&#x27;s never space for ambiguity, you showed you did your homework to the best of your extent, you already asked AI, all that&#x27;s left is explicit request for human input.It works quite well, and I appreciate it from both ends, as it saves everyone time.

IMO, its a little jab&#x2F;playful when a friend sends a LMGTFY link and its really disrespectful if a colleuage sends it

I figure from the context of the post they are asking sincere questions to their co-workers where they think their experience and knowledge is appropriate, but otherwise I agree that people should do a little legwork on their own before asking out loud.

True but how many times have people sent someone &quot;let me google that for you&quot;.Some people are inherently lazy and unload their laziness to someone else to do the thinking for them.I still think sending someone an AI answer is terrible but then again, if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first.EDIT:By laziness I mean that there are known places (they know of) with documentation that cover what they need but they don&#x27;t go there first and not something I have some deep domain knowledge of that would take them a long time to find or figure out.I would personally still not reply with an AI answer but I am tempted sometimes...

If you were so smart, you&#x27;d find a way to be happy that includes your intellect.Curbing the suffering by numbing yourself is seeking comfort in retreating to the local optimum instead of continuing to search for a better one.

Nothing feels quite as good as getting dumb and drooling literally. Being intelligent is painful, it’s the most painful state of existence. You see everything with mind bending clarity. The inane nonsense of it allNo wonder the mind instinctively recoils and wants to smoothen itselfFor past ten years my life consisted mainly of desperately trying to be dumb and happy. AI is really good tool for that. Just outsource the thinking until the organ atrophies, hopefully permanently. some drugs and the life gets actually even pleasurable.To be aware is a curse, no wonder desperate attempts to lift it take place en masse

&gt;But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer.This is the killer issue.It&#x27;s so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I&#x27;m not talking to a self sufficient entity.

I'm Tired of Talking to AI