English translation by Google (via archive.is): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;pxc4H" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;pxc4H</a>

It probably was suicide by hanging himself.

Is there currently any information out there as to the cause of his death?

From DeepL:&gt; McAfee anti-virus founder John McAfee commits suicide in a Barcelona prison&gt; The antivirus founder was arrested at El Prat airport and was awaiting extradition to the United States for tax evasion.&gt; The founder of McAfee antivirus, John McAfee, has been found dead this afternoon in his cell in Brians 2 prison, in Sant Esteve de Sesrovires (Barcelona), according to police sources. The Mossos are investigating what happened, and everything points to a suicide, according to the Department of Justice. McAfee was pending extradition to the United States after being arrested by the National Police at El Prat airport.&gt; McAfee, 75 years old, was being held in Module 1 of the Brians 1 penitentiary center. The prison guards, who found him dead in his cell, and the prison medical services intervened to perform resuscitation maneuvers, according to the Department of Justice, but were unable to save his life.&gt; The controversial antivirus founder was arrested on October 3, 2020 at the airport of El Prat, when he was about to take a plane to Turkey. The arrest came at the request of the US justice system, which accuses McAfee of evading millions of dollars in taxes from profits allegedly obtained from activities such as cryptocurrency trading. The judge of the Audiencia Nacional José de la Mata ordered his imprisonment, and his extradition to the United States was already planned.

And if the ladies stories about his hammock usage is true...

There were some very disturbing allegations against him --which is why I included his fall from grace and the good or bad.I would just add some skepticism to the charges only because the police down there can be corrupt and or inept and subject to bribery and so on. I don&#x27;t know if there has been an independent international inquiry into the matter.Anyway, I think it&#x27;s sad to see people when they throw away all the earned achievements in such a debauched way.

If you are rich enough you are eccentric and colorful.

yeah but the guy poisoned his dogs right?

I mean, he very likely killed his neighbor in 2012... so I feel like &quot;colorful&quot; undermines how much of a monster he&#x27;s been for over a decade.

The guy was fucking everybody around all his life. He was crazy af and very smart. And he absolutely hated authority. It would be a beautiful last social hack to make people suspicious of the authorities in his death.

He tweeted in preceding months and years that if found dead it wouldn&#x27;t be suicide. He got &quot;whacked&quot; tattooed on his arm to prepare for this situation.I don&#x27;t think we can just uncritically accept that it&#x27;s 100% a suicide

He died in a Catalan prison, not in US. Even if the US government had really any reason to kill him, sending an agent to prison in a foreign country to fake a suicide, when he was going to get extradited anyway, seems a bit hard to believe.The other explanation -that the policemen in the Catalan prison were useless enough to let him hang himself without them realizing- seems more plausible.

Tbh, that sounds like something a person would say&#x2F;tweet to make an eventual suicide look heroic and blame it on others.Someone who firmly believes that he is always treated unfairly whenever someone poses a threat to him or disagrees. 
I don&#x27;t know much about the facts around McAffee&#x27;s fate and this is admittedly pure speculation. 
But it fits in very well with a person whose ego apparently was through the roof.

I wouldn&#x27;t take the claims of suicide at face value when McAfee has literally stated that if he dies of suicide it&#x27;s probably a setup.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1316801215083225096" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;131680121508322509...</a><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1200864283766251521" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;120086428376625152...</a>

Is &quot;achieved success&quot; vs. notoriety something to consider here? Maybe parameterized w.r.t. time period? (90s vs. now, etc.)

Good or bad, what a sad ending to a colorful life.The guy was troubled and had many shortcomings, but he was colorful and also achieved success and arguably was one of the seminal figures in the nascent AV industry.Sad to see his fall from grace and into a world of extravagance, deceit and cheating (taxes) and, if allegations true, even worse; then to end it on the floor of a jail -all by his own hands.

Technically still a free man. No convictions against him as related to the extradition request.

Jail is detention before trial, not imprisonment in a penitentiary.

He lived his life the way he wanted and he even decided how to die.

its interesting to read reflections of people locked up. very often they talk of how we are all in our own forms of jail. 
freedom is a state of mind.

&gt; He was a free man until the end.He literally died in jail.

He&#x27;s so frequently called &quot;colorful&quot; and &quot;successful&quot;. In fact, he was a nutjob who most likely did unspeakable things when he wasn&#x27;t busy doing just terrible things.

Everyone seems to forget that he likely had his neighbor tortured and killed: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;20&#x2F;mcafee_25m_lawsuit_neighbor_death&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;20&#x2F;mcafee_25m_lawsuit_ne...</a>

Though they caged his body, his soul was unchained.

Even though he lived a cuestionable life. He was a free man until the end. I respect him for that.

Another English source:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.yahoo.com&#x2F;john-mcafee-found-dead-spanish-193256827.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.yahoo.com&#x2F;john-mcafee-found-dead-spanish-193256...</a>

Or in english:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nypost.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;23&#x2F;john-mcafee-dies-by-suicide-inside-prison-in-barcelona&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nypost.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;23&#x2F;john-mcafee-dies-by-suicide-in...</a>

<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;elpais-com.translate.goog&#x2F;economia&#x2F;2021-06-23&#x2F;el-fundador-del-antivirus-mcafee-john-mcafee-se-suicida-en-una-prision-de-barcelona.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&amp;_x_tr_tl=en&amp;_x_tr_hl=en-US&amp;_x_tr_pto=ajax,nv" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;elpais-com.translate.goog&#x2F;economia&#x2F;2021-06-23&#x2F;el-fun...</a>Google translate.

<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27609146" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27609146</a>

Getting Epstein &quot;suicide&quot; vibes from this.

Link to said tweet: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1405178506712174593" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;140517850671217459...</a>

Tweet from last week:&quot;My friends evaporated through fear of association.I have nothing.Yet, I regret nothing.&quot;

The better questions are, did he deserve to be imprisoned and did he deserve to die?

Which poses the question - if you&#x27;re absolutely sure you&#x27;re not going to kill yourself, how could you make sure that everybody knows it and believes it? Is there a way?

It is indeed an alternative possiblity, but the possiblity that he was murdered should not be discounted. Murdering those that challenge authority has been happening since the dawn of history and nothing has fundamentally changed.  Well other than needing to make it look like a suicide since modern society likes to believe it&#x27;s enlightened.

An unstable personality that hates the US saying the US government would stage a suicide is much more likely to actually kill themselves than your regular run-of-the-mill evil billionaire with powerful enemies saying nothing about how they will die.I don&#x27;t think Mcafee really thought things through enough to come to this conclusion.

I mean, I haven&#x27;t done the analysis myself but &quot;I&#x27;ll tell this story so that if I take the cowardly way out my reputation will still be protected and the conspiracy theorists will keep my legend alive forever&quot; has a &gt; 0% chance of being the motivator here.

He could have killed himself anyway--- that is obvious, but his past statements still need to be taken seriously, and extra care and doubt need to be applied to the reported story.

As they saying goes, they dig their own graves.

True but it is also possible that he was assisnated. People get assisnate all the time for political reasons.

&gt; As cynical as it might seem, there is an alternative possibility: in spite of getting a tattoo saying he would not kill himself, and in spite of posting a tweet saying he would not kill himself, he went ahead and killed himselfIn fact, if you have people who will believe you (either becuase of who you are or who your target is), and a beef against someone, and see a confluence of circumstances likely to lead to a place where suicide is your only way out, why wouldn’t you set them up to take the blame if it got to that point (especially if you blamed them for the situation driving in that direction, so you might feel that it was a lie in only peripheral details, but not grand narrative.)

For some reason I couldn’t help but read this in the voice of the narrator from Arrested Development.

As cynical as it might seem, there is an alternative possibility: in spite of getting a tattoo saying he would not kill himself, and in spite of posting a tweet saying he would not kill himself, he went ahead and killed himself.

This. The guy was just some drug-addled tech industry has been that shilled crypto scams and dodged his taxes. I think all those bathsalts were making him paranoid.

If people had reason to kill him, it would likely be that he knew scandalous information. The public wouldn&#x27;t really know that people cared about him or what that information was.I have no idea if McAfee had such knowledge, but &quot;I don&#x27;t know any reason why someone would kill him&quot; doesn&#x27;t mean much.

Why would anyone want him dead? I don&#x27;t think anyone cared about him that much.

Though it is also highly notable that he publicly posted &quot;I&#x27;m not going to kill myself, and if I do then I was probably assassinated&quot; before his death.

I have hard time believing this, either that he died or his motive. Tax evasion has one of the most lenient punishments of white collar crimes.

Unless McAfee has dirt on you, and getting extradited to the US with serious crimes against him means a high likelihood of him turning state&#x27;s witness.

The timing does make me suspicious. I&#x27;m generally willing to believe he was &quot;suicided&quot; by some shadowy conspiracy. But if that&#x27;s what happened, why would they do it on the day his extradition was approved?If our secret ninja assassins wanted to take him out because he Knew Too Much or whatever, they could do that any old time. Why do it on the day his extradition was approved instead of some random day 6 months ago or something.On the other hand, it seems much more reasonable that a man whose extradition to the US to face Federal Criminal charges was just approved might suddenly decide to kill himself rather than deal with that.Unless of course the Secret Ninja Assassins knew that and decided to kill him today to make it look less suspicious. But then we&#x27;re really getting into the weeds of conspiracy, where any crazy thing we could dream up might have happened.

There was a ruling today approving his extradition to the US.  US officials were about to get him and he was facing extremely serious charges. That&#x27;s a really important bit of context to keep in mind before jumping to ideas that some shadowy &quot;they&quot; had him killed.

It feels like everything now starts with &#x27;it&#x27;s a conspiracy&#x27; for no reason and somehow everyone has to prove it isn&#x27;t a conspiracy ... or it is assumed to be.

His body is probably not even cold yet and the conspiracy theories are piling up. On a Twitter thread, replies range from the usual RIPs to people claiming some dubious connection with Epstein, Clinton etc.
Not claiming that you are, but I suspect many will use this as proof of something nefarious. Which it might be, but at least I feel that it is unlikely.

Because whatever he says in a trial becomes public record and widely reported on.

Why kill someone they were about to get legitimately?

April, 2021<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1386349870546620418" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;138634987054662041...</a>&gt; I have been imprisoned in Catalonia nearly 7 months. I speak no Catalan and little Spanish so human contact is limited. There are no entertainments - no escape from loneliness, from emptiness, from myself.&gt; This has been the most trying period of my life.Turns out prison sucks after a while.As for the food, he changed his tune on that, too:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1391455539612225536" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;139145553961222553...</a>&gt; Most prison food in Spain is indistinguishable from rat shit in motor oil. The single exception is potato pie, which is only served on Saturdays.&gt; Unfortunately today is Sunday.

October, 2020I am content in here. I have friends.The food is good. All is well.Know that if I hang myself, a la Epstein, it will be no fault of mine.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1316801215083225096" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;131680121508322509...</a>

He never made good on this promise:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vice.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;article&#x2F;m7qawy&#x2F;john-mcafee-no-longer-willing-to-eat-his-dick-on-tv" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vice.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;article&#x2F;m7qawy&#x2F;john-mcafee-no-longer...</a>Kind of undermines his credibility.

In his last prison interview he said that all his money was gone, his friends had all abandoned him and yet he regretted nothing.  Sure sounds like a last statement to me.

And in late 2020: &quot;I am content in here. I have friends. The food is good. All is well. Know that if I hang myself, a la Epstein, it will be no fault of mine.&quot;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;peexn" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;peexn</a>

Why would one hope for him to escape justice?

I don’t think prisons in Spain work like that.

This. Gonna be grand when he faked his death and paid off a couple prison guards 10+ BTC to escape and shows up elsewhere in a year or two. One can hope, anyway. Plus, he had to get out of eating his own dick.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1316801215083225096" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;131680121508322509...</a>

The more simple explanation would probably be &quot;a person doing this doesn&#x27;t have a firm grip on reality, and might be a suicide risk&quot;

add to that: going through drug withdrawal while trapped in said box

&gt; I have found that &quot;I&#x27;ll never kill myself. There&#x27;s always something to live for&quot; is something that is very easy for people who are safe and happy to say, and I pray that these people will always be safe and comfortable enough to not change their mind on this for their own sakes.Maybe it helps to remember having said it oneself? I mean, if you are so badly off that you contemplate suicide, then everyone else saying &quot;there&#x27;s always something to live for&quot; may be easier to write off; like, &quot;what do they know of my life?&quot;. But if you&#x27;ve used to say so yourself, then sure, you may now think &quot;so obviously I was wrong then&quot;... But still, you&#x27;re you, so you do know a thing or three about your life, so you may perhaps still hang back and consider &quot;but wait, maybe I&#x27;m wrong now, and not back then?&quot;.Maybe. At least feels like it should have a better chance than other saying it. So, hey, let&#x27;s all remember to repeat this to ourselves now and then, mmkay?

I have found that &quot;I&#x27;ll never kill myself. There&#x27;s always something to live for&quot; is something that is very easy for people who are safe and happy to say, and I pray that these people will always be safe and comfortable enough to not change their mind on this for their own sakes.When you&#x27;re sitting in a tiny concrete box and looking at the very distinct possibility of spending the rest of your life in such a box, either metaphorically or, in McAfee&#x27;s case, literally, the thought process is quite different. Yes, McAfee has had run-ins with the law before, but maybe he figured he wasn&#x27;t going to get out of this situation so easily, and he didn&#x27;t have that many more good years left in front of him, concrete box or no.Thus, I&#x27;m willing to accept this as a suicide unless and until compelling evidence otherwise surfaces.

Anyone who believes that IRS or SEC sends a hitman to kill people because they evade taxes or run fraudulent crypto schemes, needs to examine their head.McAfee was always paranoid. He was not a threat to the man. He also lied a lot and even admitted it many times.

At least he doesn&#x27;t have to fulfill that promise, albeit late.

He said he&#x27;d eat his dick on live TV if Bitcoin didn&#x27;t hit $500k by last year (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;887012614131372032" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;887012614131372032</a>, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;887039604846714881" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;887039604846714881</a>, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;887024683379544065" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;887024683379544065</a>) so the track record on predictions... isn&#x27;t great.

Because twitter seems to be rate limiting access to this tweet (&quot;Something went wrong, try reloading&quot;), here is an archived version<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20201005231441&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1200864283766251521" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20201005231441&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.c...</a>

McAfee is an interesting person but I believe absolutely nothing that he says.

The trait that carried McAfee furthest was, in hindsight, his incredible talent as a hype man. He effectively created an image as a larger-than-life figure who those in power were afraid of and wished to stop.I have no trouble believing that people wanted him dead in general. He was credibly accused of both murder and sexual assault[1]. I am sure he was annoying to many officials, but most of the reports of death threats around McAfee were those experienced by the people he disliked.I think that the simplest and most straightforward explanation is that this tweet (and tattoo) were another promotional stunt for someone trying to get out of the charges against him. It would be another in a long line of claims McAfee made on various topics which had the effect of, however briefly, centering himself in the eye of the public. He wasn&#x27;t adverse to extreme actions and I have no trouble believing that he would both get that tattoo and decide later to end his own life.[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;9&#x2F;12&#x2F;12887124&#x2F;john-mcafee-rape-murder-accusations-gringo-documentary-tiff" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;9&#x2F;12&#x2F;12887124&#x2F;john-mcafee-rape...</a>

What you have here is someone ruminating on and obsessing over themes of suicide. Sadly that’s exactly the kind of person who goes on to fall victim to that behaviour.

From McAffee in 2019, &quot;Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: &quot;We&#x27;re coming for you McAfee! We&#x27;re going to kill yourself&quot;. I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn&#x27;t. I was whackd. Check my right arm.
&quot;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1200864283766251521?s=20" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;120086428376625152...</a>

Sad ending of one of the first innovators of the new technology era.Rest In Peace.

&quot;But the strangest part of knowing McAfee was the time he wanted me to help start an AIDS-free sex club. I still remember how excited he was about his new, brilliant idea. Membership required a fee and an AIDS test. If the test came back negative, you were given a membership card, which you could then take to organized member parties, have lots of casual sex, and not worry about catching the virus.&quot;- My adventures with John McAfee
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.csoonline.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;2616198&#x2F;my-adventures-with-john-mcafee.html?page=3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.csoonline.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;2616198&#x2F;my-adventures-with...</a>

Bit of a tangent here:I notice he stresses the first syllable of his name. Is &quot;McAfee&quot; always pronounced that way, also in England, Ireland and Scotland?Wikipedia gives the pronunciation as &#x2F;ˈmækəfiː&#x2F;, like in the video. Is it reasonable to suppose that if lots of people pronounced the name differently then at least one of them would have edited the Wikipedia article to mention the other pronunciation?

I choose to remember him like this:&quot;How To Uninstall McAfee Antivirus&quot; =&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;bKgf5PaBzyg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;bKgf5PaBzyg</a>

Read the whole book, then if you haven&#x27;t already (Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas). Truly excellent.

That Thompson quote really resonates with me, thanks for sharing.

That seems to imply that he lived a deviant life because he took drugs, rather than the other way around. This is precisely the type of judgement that the parent wanted to avoid. :)

So can being rich enough that no-one can check your behaviour.

Taking hard drugs can lead to deviant behavior, so I am not sure if people should be applauded for it.

You can celebrate someone&#x27;s accomplishments without condoning their sins. I applaud lots of little pieces of his life and reject&#x2F;regret many others.

&gt; issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the terror group ISIL. you do not, under any circumstances, &quot;gotta hand it to them&quot;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;dril&#x2F;status&#x2F;831805955402776576" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;dril&#x2F;status&#x2F;831805955402776576</a>

This cancel culture thing where a few negative cancels all the good you could have done is really weird.Voltaire is racist, Washington had slaves, this or that twiteroo said 10 years ago some kind of sorry thing, McAfee killed and frauded.Look it&#x27;s all kinda true and all kinda irrelevant. People are more than the 10% of the time they sinned. I sure have sinned, and I sure hope you&#x27;ll still find me valuable as a human.

Nobody &quot;is&quot; anything. People do things. He did some good things, worth praising. He&#x27;s also allegedly done some despicable things that we should condemn.

He’s a murderer and fraudster. You do not in fact have to applaud him for anything.

&gt; did something more with his life than just take a lot of drugs and be weird.Not everything about a person is their public image though. Summing up a persons life like that, even if you disagree with his public image, is just inhumane. Did you know him? Did you ever even see him once?

FWIW, if HST is to be believed, I think McAfee and Acosta would have gotten along:Oscar was not into serious street-fighting, but he was hell on wheels in a bar brawl. Any combination of a 250 lb Mexican and LSD-25 is a potentially terminal menace for anything it can reach – but when the alleged Mexican is in fact a profoundly angry Chicano lawyer with no fear at all of anything that walks on less than three legs and a de facto suicidal conviction that he will die at the age of 33 – just like Jesus Christ – you have a serious piece of work on your hands. Especially if the bastard is already 33½ years old with a head full of Sandoz acid, a loaded .357 Magnum in his belt, a hatchet-wielding Chicano bodyguard on his elbow at all times, and a disconcerting habit of projectile vomiting geysers of pure blood off the front porch every 30 or 40 minutes, or whenever his malignant ulcer can&#x27;t handle any more raw tequila.— Hunter S. Thompson

This is true. But he did also do a lot of drugs and he was also weird. See Fear And Loathing in Las Vegas for examples where he was portrayed as Dr. Gonzo.

HST did a lot more than do drugs and be weird, but I wouldn&#x27;t imagine a computer nerd who clacks on a keyboard to know much about Gonzojournalism or the effects it&#x27;s had on American culture.

should also be noted that Oscar Zeta Acosta disappeared during alleged involvement with drug-runners, and defended groups and people who now-a-days would likely be considered domestic terrorists (like early Brown Beret members before their first dissolution in the early 70s).

...he also protected people from computer viruses.

It should be noted that this Hunter S Thompson quote refers to Oscar Zeta Acosta. Acosta made a big difference fighting for the rights of poor and marginalized mexican-americans in east LA. He did something more with his life than just take a lot of drugs and be weird.

You win this comment section, there could not be a more appropriate quote for this news.

thanks for re-sharing, what a great read to recap his crazy-ass life

I came across a Wired article on McAfee from 2012 describing his life in Belize, and it&#x27;s quite a story. Starting an antibiotic lab, hiring armed guards with automatic weapons, trying to clean up drug crime in a small town, sleeping with 17-year-olds (one of which tried to kill him), pointing a loaded gun to his own head, getting raided by the police and jailed, lots of paranoia, and that&#x27;s just the highlights. It&#x27;s worth a read.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2012&#x2F;12&#x2F;ff-john-mcafees-last-stand&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2012&#x2F;12&#x2F;ff-john-mcafees-last-stand&#x2F;</a>

The way I remember how to write it is that &quot;weather&quot; and &quot;whether&quot; have the same number of letters.

There’s a bunch of wh... words. Wouldn’t you know them by class?In my language they spell hv...Hvem, hvad, hvor = who, what, where etc.

I always remember by Geography teacher correcting me on my incorrect use of wether instead of whether and explaining that the former meant a castrated ram.

That&#x27;s one of my favorite quotes. I can really relate to it.

&quot;When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.&quot;

What a strange life he lived. I&#x27;m not going to make a value judgement about whether or not he was a &#x27;good&#x27; person, but I do applaud the fact that he dared to deviate from the norm.&quot;There he goes. One of God&#x27;s own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.&quot;-- Hunter S ThompsonRIP

He moved to Belize to &quot;experiment&quot; on herbal medicines to affect the micro-biology of the human body.Guess Belize are lax on experiments and &quot;labs&quot;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;John_McAfee#After_McAfee_Associates" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;John_McAfee#After_McAfee_Assoc...</a>

&gt; Can someone explain why McAfee had decamped to Belize in the first place and started a life on the lam?Drugs.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nymag.com&#x2F;intelligencer&#x2F;2016&#x2F;09&#x2F;the-obscure-legal-drug-that-fuels-john-mcafee.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nymag.com&#x2F;intelligencer&#x2F;2016&#x2F;09&#x2F;the-obscure-legal-dr...</a>

From memory, his nephew had passed in a similar way to the person in the flight. It may be the same case. I don&#x27;t think he was running away from paying a settlement, I think he was running away from the guilt he felt that he had facilitated his own nephew&#x27;s death. It was immediately after that that his downhill spiral began.Wired suggesting it was a financial move is just lowbrow journalism.

someone posted a nice story in a different thread - before he started going really crazy with the lab and stuff, it looks like he first wanted to get away from a couple of pending lawsuits in the States:&quot;He was already facing a suit from a man who had tripped on his property in New Mexico. Another suit alleged that he was responsible for the death of someone who crashed during a lesson at a flight school McAfee had founded. He figured that if he were out of the country, he&#x27;d be less of a target. And he knew that, should he lose a case, it would be harder for the plaintiffs to collect money if he lived overseas.&quot;
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2012&#x2F;12&#x2F;ff-john-mcafees-last-stand&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2012&#x2F;12&#x2F;ff-john-mcafees-last-stand&#x2F;</a>

Can someone explain why McAfee had decamped to Belize in the first place and started a life on the lam?Wikipedia is surprisingly sparse here.Edit - in 2012 he was the prime suspect to the killing of his neighbor as mentioned here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27609243" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27609243</a>

IMDB[0] for those wondering.[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt6071534&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt6071534&#x2F;</a>

He was found guilty in civil court in Florida and forced to pay $25M; he never stood trial because he fled.Also, presumption of innocence applies to the law, not to HN comments.

&gt; we&#x27;re supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty.The legal system should presume innocence. It&#x27;s completely reasonable for people have lower standards for assuming guilt.

1) Presumption of innocence applies only in court which McAfee purposefully avoided.2) He was found guilty in civil court.3) If he wanted to be judged by American standards he should&#x27;ve perhaps stayed in America.4) You&#x27;re acting like accusations of torturing and murdering your (yes actually dead) neighbor happen regularly to random people. Cancel culture, amirite?

&quot;Innocent until proven guilty&quot; is for the courts, who hold sway over one&#x27;s freedom. It is perfectly acceptable as an individual to go, &quot;yeah, he probably (because I, as an individual, aren&#x27;t held to a &#x27;reasonable doubt&#x27; standard, either) did it&quot; just as it is perfectly acceptable to give some benefit of the doubt.But as others have already pointed out, a court already found him guilty, and it&#x27;s moot anyway.

He was found guilty in a civil suit, and has been actively avoiding a criminal trial.&quot;Likely&quot; is a fully appropriate term, since all evidence points to that being the case, but (as you say) there has been no trial to subject that thesis to evidence.

If you flee the country to avoid being tried in court, we are just supposed to say &quot;Oh well, guess you are innocent forever&quot;?

The legal standard for guilt in a criminal trial is &quot;guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.&quot; There is a lot of room between &quot;likely&quot; and that very high standard. It is perfectly consistent to think someone more likely committed a murder than didn&#x27;t, yet still have a reasonable doubt. So I really don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s any shame here.

Court of law has rules on what evidence can be brought in. Courts are not the arbiter of justice, they&#x27;re a system of justice that has flaws and errors.

Lol he fled his trial. Also people can make up their own mind and people can credibility can him a rapest and a murderer

&gt; I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since.In America, we&#x27;re supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. It&#x27;s a shame it really only takes an accusation.

The court of public opinion does not operate on the same rules as a court of law.Most people still believe OJ &quot;did it&quot; even though he was found innocent. In a just judicial system, the accused must be proven guilty &quot;beyond a reasonable doubt&quot;, but the general public are not beholden to such stringent requirements. People are allowed to evaluate the available evidence and come to their own conclusions. In the case of John McAfee, that evidence is pretty damning, and he&#x27;s done nothing to temper its persuasion.

&gt; I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don&#x27;t think he deserves the eulogies he&#x27;s getting here.Surely having built an antivirus us corroborating evidence of evil intent?I find it unlikely that the product he created less damage to computers and user productivity than what it protected them from, especially in the last 15 years or do.

It is a very small community where this happened (San Pedro, BZ). I&#x27;m all for due process, but it was basically an open secret.source: my parents live in the town where it happened.

He was never tried, because he fled to Guatemala to avoid prosecution, then faked a heart attack to delay his extradition.

People aren&#x27;t automatically innocent in the eyes of the public just because they successfully avoid seeing a trial for nearly a decade by fleeing the country they are wanted in. McAfee&#x27;s behavior surrounding the charges does absolutely nothing to help his perception.&quot;Innocent until proven guilty&quot; is really only applicable in the context of formal judicial punishment. Absent formal judicial proceedings, it is completely fair for people to draw their own conclusions from the available evidence.Even when a court of law does come to a conclusion, it does not mean public opinion is required to agree with that finding (i.e. that time OJ Simpson killed a person)

There was a whole civil case about it in the US. So while that doesn&#x27;t prove he committed murder beyond a reasonable doubt, it means the preponderance of the evidence suggests he did.

Was he convincted of murder, or are you acting as the judge and jury based on third hand media reports?

Credibly accused of rape and multiple murders is the most accurate

&gt; he likely killed his neighbor&gt; he&#x27;s a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scamsWell, that escalated quickly.

&quot;Innocent until proven guilty&quot; does not mean &quot;Abandon critical thought until a judge tells you otherwise&quot; — this guy caught himself up in crimes literally everywhere he went... and this was after fleeing from a $25m judgement against him.It seems a bit daft to think &quot;gee, he probably did nothing wrong&quot; simply because of how the American legal system is designed.

It is absurd to apply that to individual, or even social, judgement. We don&#x27;t actually pretend to be ignorant and blind of a person&#x27;s probable or apparent misdeeds if they haven&#x27;t been proven in a court of law, nor should we. If, for instance, I notice a couple small, expensive items go missing each time my cousin visits, I&#x27;m not going to say &quot;oh well, better not tell anyone else he&#x27;s probably a thief and I&#x27;d better keep inviting him over and leaving him unattended, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law after all&quot;. That&#x27;d be silly, and acting that way to such an absolute adherence to that principle would be downright anti-social. If he&#x27;s later convicted and my family finds out I&#x27;d noticed years ago, but not warned them because he hadn&#x27;t been convicted yet, and so he stole things from them because I didn&#x27;t warn them, they&#x27;d justly be pissed off at me.Or, what, are we suddenly not allowed to judge people&#x27;s apparent behavior &amp; deeds as soon as they&#x27;re criminal, but free to before that? That doesn&#x27;t make much sense either. But clearly we can form and share judgements about behavior that&#x27;s not criminal, and that&#x27;s fine. If it gets too serious, though, then we have to stop unless a conviction occurs? Huh?

Here in America we have something called innocent until proven guilty.

I am hoping it&#x27;s a case of people just being ignorant of his life after exiting the software world. The guy left a pretty horrible path of destruction. Hope his victims have some small amount of closure from this, because they won&#x27;t be getting it from the legal system anymore.

Folks want to make him out as a nerd&#x2F;tech hero and pretend all of the downward spiral stuff that he did never happened just to keep their conscience clean.

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since.I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don&#x27;t think he deserves the eulogies he&#x27;s getting here. He&#x27;s not tech&#x27;s Hunter S. Thompson; he&#x27;s a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

He&#x27;d probably prefer a powdery white line.

Sorry I don&#x27;t recall. I don&#x27;t think I ever knew actually. It was just something I came across.

At least Mcafee said Spanish prisons are like Hilton in comparison to USA ones[1], do you have the documentary name, it’s the one about Norway prisons? Just curious.[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dailymail.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;article-9718567&#x2F;amp&#x2F;Antivirus-pioneer-John-McAfee-dies-bars-suspected-suicide.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dailymail.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;article-9718567&#x2F;amp&#x2F;Antivir...</a>

Spanish prisons are apparently among the worst in Europe according to some documentary I saw. I wonder if there&#x27;s a connection.

There were serious allegations of murder and serious corruption. I’m conflicted on how to feel about this. Probably would have preferred seeing him convicted or vindicated, definitely not dead.

Did you miss the &quot;Tesla buys billions of USD in bitcoin&quot; headlines? Along with the &quot;will accept payment in BTC&quot; pump and &quot;never mind, selling&quot; dump?

Musk was fined 40 million for his stock tweets but I don&#x27;t think he technically ever engaged in any crypto pump and dump because I don&#x27;t think he ever actually held (or dumped) any crypto. I assume you have to actually financially benefit from such a scheme to commit some sort of crime. Otherwise you&#x27;re basically just shitposting about crypto.

Neither do Musk, Bezos, Soros etc. They just manage to get away with it. I guess McAfee was just not rich enough and didn&#x27;t have the right tax attorney.

Because (according to the allegations) McAfee didn&#x27;t pay the tax man.

He also said he would eat is own anatomy regarding bitcoin price.. I guess this bet is gonna happen in another dimension.

Because Elon Musk is significantly more sane and did not actually done very same thing. Having enough sanity to keep you schemes just on the safer side help. He is also not accused of rape and murder both of which make law enforcement look more closely on you in general.Also, Musk is rich and powerful right now. That alone makes it harder to go after him as he will pay for better justice. McAffee is not that powerful.

Never followed his story but the translated article on NyPost only mentions his cryptocurrency pump and dump scheme.Which naturally leads me to the question, why was McAffee pursued for this all the way to Europe but Elon Musk isn&#x27;t even investigated while millions watched him do the same?I am not loading this politically at all. I am not from the US and I am mostly apathetic to celebrities. But I am genuinely curious why is it OK for one guy to do it and very illegal for another one doing the same?

I once actually paid real money to read a short story about his adventures in Belize.He had a good run.

You run a VM just to inspect &quot;sketchy-looking links&quot;? That sounds like paranoid behavior, if I&#x27;m being honest.

We&#x27;ve since replaced the original link, by the author&#x27;s request.

Your sketchy looking link which I mistakenly clicked on instead of copy and pasting into my VM is b0rk. Says &quot;This item has exceeded its view limit!&quot;

Often meeting your hero&#x27;s does not go well, so pleased this did for you :)

Yes I&#x27;ve met a number of personable people who I completely disagreed with on politics and their actions, as long as you don&#x27;t challenge their ideological stances. It&#x27;s kind of like dealing with an alcoholic as long as you don&#x27;t challenge their addiction everything tends to go well. It happened to me just last night on the phone. The human mind is a complex thing.

It&#x27;s unfortunate that a lot of things we like about people, doesn&#x27;t really go hand in hand for making good choices otherwise.

Not sure why you’re downvoted. I was also confused for a moment - “inebriated with praise” is not an uncommon expression.

Sloshed is a weird word. It means drunk but if you go through etymology, it started at slush and moved to slosh which was to splash around in slush. Then somewhere along the lines, &#x27;slosh&#x27; meant to pour without care and make a mess. That turned into pour alcohol carelessly and become a mess.

Huh. Never heard that latter usage. Where are you from? (For regional dialect purposes.)

When you say he was &quot;sloshed&quot; do you mean he was drunk? Or do you mean he was very pleased with your praise?

I&#x27;d argue that making those millions turned his life upside down, made his life drown in hedonism, eventually taking his mind and any shred of dignity. Still, RIP John

We got McAfee for DOS in the late 1980s, dialed up his BBS for updates. Gave out copies at the college because it was shareware at the time, you buy a registration code.

My interaction with McAfee was in the pre-internet &#x27;80s. I was called when a nearby international school got hit by a computer virus spread on floppy disks. Looking for sources of info, found the &quot;Computer Virus Industry Association&quot;. Called, got a little bit of generic advice, and he mostly asked me to send sample disks. Turned out that the &quot;CVIA&quot; was basically a pretext of McAfee trolling for people like me to send samples for the anti-virus software he was writing.Sure, mildly clever ruse, but I always felt that the way it was done was a bit off - could have been more straightforward. I guess he thought people would not help him if he didn&#x27;t use the pretext.Somehow the rest of the story does not surprise me. Making his millions seems to have given him no peace either.RIP

I recall both of them. Did you win an iPad? If so, I have a picture of me giving you that prize still!

I looked at that photo and realized I knew you  Small world, my co-founer and I won 2 DigitalOcean awards at HackTech and LA Hacks that you awarded us

Watch &#x27;The Fall&#x27; mini-series for a good example

This kind of subjectivism is so lacking in nuance, though, that the good parts that one is seeing (and, in many ways, choosing to see) are a mere reduction of the whole truth, and isn’t the whole truth of a personSo a serial killer is a good person just because he’s a nice neighbor to you? If you’re hanging out with a friend in your inner circle of elites and that friend is nice to you but is very rude to waiters and other blue-collar workers, is that friend a good person?I’m not making a judgment of McAfee’s character here, just pointing out the myopic sense of morality. It’s so popular, too popular if I must say, among people these days.

In fact, this is what they mean when they say it&#x27;s almost impossible to know who the real sociopaths are. The true ones are so charismatic and good at manipulation that, unless you are extraordinarily close to them or get on their bad side, they just seem like the sort of person that everyone likes.Interestingly, a minority of people seem to be somewhat able to see through the facade. I have ADHD and a brother who&#x27;s very nearly on the autism spectrum, and both of those conditions seem correlated with this ability to have an unbiased sense of a person. Perhaps it&#x27;s due to the way we are slightly detached from normal social interactions, or the highly analytical way our brains function. All I know is that there are definitely times I feel this. For instance, if you look online, there are tons of relatively recent videos that have special forces types (SEALS, rangers, etc.) commenting on movie scenes or so on. The comments are always full of people talking about how they seem like such a great person, or how funny&#x2F;charming&#x2F;positive&#x2F;etc. this person is. Meanwhile, I just come away with this feeling of being very deeply unsettled by them almost every time. Everything about their demeanor unsettles me. Now I&#x27;m in no way saying every special forces operator is a closet sociopath. But the job does attract a certain personality type, and many of the ones on these videos are the most charismatic of the whole bunch.Back on topic, John always seemed to be to be a pretty typical narcissist to me. He did some stuff that I found to be funny in kind of a black humor sense (that video of him supposedly telling you how to uninstall McAfee antivirus), but the idea that he was a truly positive person I just totally don&#x27;t see. I mean, think about it -- the OP&#x27;s story involves John having the guy call his wife and tell him how great he thought John was and how great his ideas were. That&#x27;s pretty typical narcissistic behavior.

Are you comparing John McAfee to a serial killer? For real?

Realise that people can be super nice to you and cruel&#x2F;evil to somebody else. The serial killer living next door might be a great neighbour. That doesn’t change the facts of what he&#x2F;she is.

Taking in to account he was drunk he must be real

That, and he was already wealthy by the point the OP ran into him. I’m still poor and every additional dollar I receive increases my happiness immensely. Dollars buy dignity and he had no restraints in life at all financially.

In my experience ... they have learned to activate that charm when among other people&#x2F;in the spotlight.Being on their own, they have their dark moments, too.

I think people like that always have positive energy whether feigned or real. It&#x27;s what attracts people (and money) to them. Famous celebrities, high level execs, politicians that I&#x27;ve met all had similar outward charm.

I met John in an Atlanta airport lounge years ago[1]. I recognized him immediately as I&#x27;ve always admired him, and I decided to go up to him and tell him as much. He invited me to sit down, and told him about when I was a teenager in the 90s learning about tech entrepreneurs at the time, I always thought he was pretty cool and had good ideas. I told him I respected him, and that I was sure he&#x27;d lived an incredible life and thanked him for his contributions. He was clearly totally sloshed(inebriated) and insisted he called his wife so I could recount the story to her. I did. An hr later I had to leave to catch my flight, and i asked him where he was going - he said I&#x27;d find out some &quot;pretty crazy shit&quot; about him next week, and that &quot;the doc was a bunch of BS&quot;. Two days later, I read Show Time had announced &quot;Gringo: The Dangerous Life of John McAfee&quot;. In the brief time I spent with him, I have to say he had pretty positive energy for someone who was portrayed the way he was.[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;qThvR2S.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;qThvR2S.jpg</a>

It may seem odd to some, but I think the world was better off with McAffee alive. I doubt he took his own life. He seems to be the sort of fellow who would in some way enjoy going to court, even if only to have his point of view heard.

There is a documentary about his time in Belize:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;film&#x2F;2016&#x2F;nov&#x2F;18&#x2F;gringo-dangerous-life-of-john-mcafee-review-trump-figure" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;film&#x2F;2016&#x2F;nov&#x2F;18&#x2F;gringo-dangerou...</a>

No, &quot;Catalan Jail&quot; is only for positive news; for negatives, you have to use Spanish.Come on! That is the first rule of brainwashing.

They want independence but are not independent (from Spain). Otherwise both is right. &quot;Spain&quot; is the country and &quot;Catalan&quot; the region (within Spain).

Shouldn&#x27;t that be a Catalan jail?

I honestly forgot he existed. He always seemed more like a mythical character than anything else to me.

I hope there is security footage. If not, I don&#x27;t like the trend for governments &#x2F; organizations &#x2F; powerful people in exacting justice.

Are the autopsy results in already? If not... no.

It would be good journalistic practice if they would not jump to conclusions too quickly, try to influence the public opinion with (their) assumptions or just try to heat the debate by taking a side too early (&quot;suicide&quot;). We are on Hacker News: The upvoted article usually has a high quality&#x2F;standard, which is a quite positive thing.

Should the title be changed to the more journalistic &quot;died by suicide&quot;, or just &quot;died&quot; with suicide left to the article body? &quot;Committed suicide&quot; is generally not the recommended phrasing largely due to associations with criminality - see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reportingonsuicide.org&#x2F;recommendations&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reportingonsuicide.org&#x2F;recommendations&#x2F;</a> as well as <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ethics.journalism.wisc.edu&#x2F;2018&#x2F;10&#x2F;04&#x2F;a-guide-to-responsible-reporting-on-suicide&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ethics.journalism.wisc.edu&#x2F;2018&#x2F;10&#x2F;04&#x2F;a-guide-to-res...</a> and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nami.org&#x2F;Blogs&#x2F;NAMI-Blog&#x2F;June-2018&#x2F;Why-Suicide-Reporting-Guidelines-Matter" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nami.org&#x2F;Blogs&#x2F;NAMI-Blog&#x2F;June-2018&#x2F;Why-Suicide-R...</a>

An interesting point.I&#x27;ll clarify. Anyone imprisoned while awaiting trial, should have the right to live stream their imprisonment. An absolute dirt cheap way to safeguard justice.

People in prison are already living under an extreme degree of observation and control. Now you want to deprive them of the last tiny bit of privacy they can hope for and record them 24&#x2F;7 in their cells?

Don&#x27;t know nearly anything about the guy, but as a rule anytime an enemy of a government dies of &quot;suicide&quot; or natural causes and there is no video footage I am suspect. You can buy a security cam and a year of monitoring for a the price of a hamburger. Nowadays a 3 year old can&#x27;t eat a cookie without there being video footage.These should be assumed murders until proven otherwise.If you need a reminder of why, watch this video (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=bJujIwtdk8w" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=bJujIwtdk8w</a>)<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mahmoud_al-Mabhouh" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mahmoud_al-Mabhouh</a>

McAffee ended up doing YOLO to the extreme. Check out the &quot;After McAffee Associates&quot; section.&gt; In June 2013, McAfee uploaded a parody video titled How to Uninstall McAfee Antivirus onto his YouTube channel. In the video, McAfee criticized McAfee&#x27;s antivirus software while snorting white powder, and being stroked and undressed by scantily clad women. The video has garnered over 10 million views.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;John_McAfee#After_McAfee_Associates" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;John_McAfee#After_McAfee_Assoc...</a>

Given his recent history, I suppose he probably tried to break out of jail and failed?

One man&#x27;s truth is another man&#x27;s uncomfortable thought. Can&#x27;t have that

Funny you get downvoted for stating the truth :^)

Surely you are not implying countries don&#x27;t ever orchestrate such things.

McAfee could easily have had plenty of dirt on ton of powerful people. He would have given up all that info for reducing his sentence in the US.It is not super crazy to think that there would be plenty of people who would have rather see him die vs get extradited to US.

I doubt anybody in Spain or the US was afraid of what he could say.So no...not just like it at all.

Just like that Epstein guy killed himself

Maybe he was killed for his bitcoin&#x2F;crypto? Is it a possibility? How can we know if it was suicide or murder?

Thanks to you both for letting me know. Let&#x27;s go with the BBC link for now. (URL changed from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nbc4i.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;u-s-world&#x2F;john-mcafee-found-dead-in-spanish-jail-after-court-approves-extradition-to-us" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nbc4i.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;u-s-world&#x2F;john-mcafee-found-dead-...</a>)

Not available to European readers.Alternative examples here:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;world-europe-57589822" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;world-europe-57589822</a><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;us-news&#x2F;2021&#x2F;jun&#x2F;23&#x2F;john-mcafee-dead-spain-prison-extradition" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;us-news&#x2F;2021&#x2F;jun&#x2F;23&#x2F;john-mcafee-...</a>

We changed the URL from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;elpais.com&#x2F;economia&#x2F;2021-06-23&#x2F;el-fundador-del-antivirus-mcafee-john-mcafee-se-suicida-en-una-prision-de-barcelona.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;elpais.com&#x2F;economia&#x2F;2021-06-23&#x2F;el-fundador-del-antiv...</a> to the most neutral English-language article that was easy to Google.

He has lived a very interesting life, to say it mildly. I can think of worse lives to have lived, especially considering how rich he was, how salacious a life he lead with his drug-and-sex filled decades and even killing someone. Ending it via suicide in a Spanish prison seems just about par for the course given the rest of his life.

If you didn’t know, Charles Manson was a sociopath but a talented musician. Not sure if you taste the style but here it is: [0][0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=HOTnvPE_LMY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=HOTnvPE_LMY</a>

thanks for that video. i found myself so quick to judge, though i know very little about him. but seeing someone play music makes them human again. it seems he did burn bright. some people cant help but push up against the edges of existence. rip.

I didn&#x27;t know him at all, but felt there was something I recognized and understood about what he was saying. If you must burn, burn bright. It looked like a great ride.This video of him playing piano is what I think he wanted people to know: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;1362059887010807813" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;officialmcafee&#x2F;status&#x2F;136205988701080781...</a>

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