1.) I stopped reading there for a minute, because I had to wipe away the tears of joy. Seriously, thanks for this one!

And thank you for extending the test case!

There were no multi-level collapsible threads, so I&#x27;m replying to your post to see it work :)

For people holding a mobile phone with their right hand and using their right thumb to collapse, works wonderfully.

For me it&#x27;s on both sides: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;vTPD63G.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;vTPD63G.png</a>One of those is because of a chrome extension. I guess just get the extension. :)

The problem is that the collapse is on the right. It used to be this way on Reddit too, but after users complained they moved it to the left. Right now it&#x27;s hard to collapse a series of top level comments in a row since you have to keep moving the mouse around a lot.Feature request to move the collapse to the left side, like on reddit?

Great features, the collapsable comments chrome plugin is one of the first things I install on a fresh machine

These are great! especially the collapse comment threads!Welcome sctb.

Hacker News, adding features that people have been requesting for years? Is it April 1st already?Nah, I kid ;) This all looks great, thanks!

I&#x27;d appreciate a link to &#x2F;hidden as well, as I just spent some time hunting around for one.

Very cool. Great work!Small suggestion: Maybe put a link to &#x2F;hidden somewhere, like the user&#x27;s own profile page.

Love the collapse comments in threads feature.

&gt; I somehow doubt that logged-in users are the only ones who see things on the front page they&#x27;d rather not.Currently, the change is not persistent across reloads, which make the feature (to hide undesirable submissions) not helpful. I&#x27;m unsure if that is a bug but that does not seem intentional, and it reproduces on several browsers. FWIW, it works as described on logged-in accounts.(Edit: Scott mentioned in another comment about Local Storage issues. That may be related.)&gt; Because posts to HN are either stories or comments?Edited OP to note that &quot;story&quot; doesn&#x27;t fit the tone of content unrelated to news, like Show HN. It&#x27;s not a big deal, but it was a recent change I found odd and unprompted.

Now that we have thread collapsing there&#x27;s no reason not to discuss finer lexicographical points right here!Great changes btw.

&gt; Reloading just makes them appear againWell, that&#x27;s true of collapsed comment threads as well, and I somehow doubt that logged-in users are the only ones who see things on the front page they&#x27;d rather not.&gt; why have all instances of &quot;submissions&quot; on HN been replaced with &quot;stories&quot;Because posts to HN are either stories or comments? Happy to discuss this at hn@ycombinator.com if you want to apply some lexicographical fine points.

Why is hiding stories available to logged-out users? Reloading just makes them appear again. :p (EDIT: may be bug)On a related tangent, why have all instances of &quot;submissions&quot; on HN been replaced with &quot;stories&quot;? It&#x27;s an change which IMO does not fit the usage. (A Show HN wouldn&#x27;t make sense as a &quot;story.&quot;)

A quick HN search indicates people submit them as individual posts.I for one would be curious of which users I&#x27;ve upvoted stories&#x2F;comments the most, and vice versa.But I feel most features should be chrome extensions, the simplicity of the site is its strongest feature.

I was thinking more of a public place where others can see it.For instance, I would ask for a feature that downvoting shall require a mandatory comment or similar improvements to discourage anonymous drive-by-downvoting which gives you no info as to what&#x27;s objectionable&#x2F;irrelevant in your comment. From experience, 2&#x2F;3 of the downvotes appear to be subjective likes&#x2F;unlikes leading to anonymous downvotes. In fact, I never downvote anything, so I&#x27;d be fine if the downvote button was replaced with the FLAG link. But there are some who see use in the downvote function, so that&#x27;s to be considered as well.

Would you consider setting up an issues page here? It might be good to have some public location where people could post requests&#x2F;bugs and communicate with the developers.

Emailing hn@ycombinator.com is the way to ask us anything.

Huge thanks to you guys. Collapsing comments are working perfectly on iPad.

Very useful updates. Especially glad to see #2 and #3, as those have been features where I&#x27;ve naturally run into their absence when using HN

&gt;Save and share the best stories and comments.Tried using different bookmarking apps etc but always prefer native saving of items on actual sites, great addition!...Also welcome Scott!

I tested it on you, and left the upvote. :)

A pessimist would see their karma go down, then back up -- maybe.

Finally! I tested on you :) The upvote is awesome, there have many times over the years I&#x27;ve mistakingly hit the up&#x2F;down and wished for a redo.

I got my downvote ability at around 550 or so...

400 or 500 points, I forgot which. Maybe someone with something between those two can tell?

I&#x27;m at 495 and can&#x27;t downvote.Quick, 5 people upvote me and I&#x27;ll tell you if it kicks in.

I can&#x27;t downvote. How much Karma do I need to activate it?

Haha, looking at your profile page, your comment karma is increasing at about 20 upvotes &#x2F; min

I went for iterations - up, down, up, down, up, down.  So it seems to track.  I left an upvote to make sure it stuck when I come back in a few hours to revisit.

So was the final state of your vote down or did you change it afterwards? Did you test attempting to upvote twice in a row, downvote twice in a row, etc? :)

new user so pardon my ignorance but I dont have a downvote button. Do I need to enable it somewhere?

There is a bug after you undo your vote for the 500th time :)

I followed your testing instructions on your comment. Test passed.

when does one get down vote power? edit: never mind i read below.

I can repro this. Thank you for the instructions.

Tested upvote, worked.Tested undo upvote, worked.Tested downvote, worked.My testing is complete.

Wow that is quite impressive jumping. Sometimes I forget how many people lurk on HN.

I&#x27;m having fun refreshing your profile page and watching your karma jump around.

This comment made me want to test the reply. When there is a mighty wind, two cheeks are funnier than one.

I wanted to upvote that comment and so I did!Then later I changed my mind because really, it deserved a downvote.Anger passed and facing the consequences of my actions I was nothing but a broken man. I brought back equilibrium and removed that downvote.This is when I realized that the timing was perfect for a self-centered comment.

When it settles down you have to tell us how many upvotes you ended up with on this.  I tested back and forth several times and left you with an upvote. Your karma was about 200 less last time I checked!

I actually did that before reading this comment. :)

I think we really just need to test that down-voting works.  But I almost never use down-votes so I&#x27;ll leave that up to the &quot;crowd&quot;.

Voted up. Saw the &quot;unvote&quot;, didn&#x27;t click it. I believe Hacker News has tested the functionality. I&#x27;ll leave the upvote. Here&#x27;s to you splawn.

I failed unvote by tapping on collapse link

I bet whoever has the top comment on this one is going to see their karma go up and down as everyone tests out the unvote and undown feature. :)

As someone who can never keep track of interesting links, I welcome the &quot;favorite&quot; functionality as another system I will use for a while, until it gets cluttered up and meaningless :) But honestly, good stuff.

Doesn&#x27;t seem to be the cause for me.  I&#x27;ve not disabled anything (in fact, going into local storage I can see a few settings), and I&#x27;m not incognito.

It looks like this can happen if you have local storage disabled (perhaps temporarily, if you&#x27;re using an incognito window).

Bug: This appears as a &quot;Please read about some new features. [x]&quot; heading, but clicking the &quot;x&quot; does nothing (including after page reload)Otherwise: Awesome! The collapse feature in particular is something I&#x27;ve long wanted.

Ah, I noticed sctb a few days ago when he posted along the lines of &quot;we detached this thread&quot; or something like that and wondered how many low-key or sporadic moderators there are.

Answered here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12073806" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12073806</a>.

Should I be able to see the unvote link on older votes or is it only available for a limited time or only on stuff voted on from now on?

Ah, I for one really appreciate the unvote feature! I have an awful habit of mis-voting or accidentally voting when I just want to see a profile. Thanks!

I don&#x27;t want to have to install browser extensions or configure reddit. Seriously I get enough of that by using Linux desktop.

Try RES :) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;redditenhancementsuite.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;redditenhancementsuite.com&#x2F;</a> lots of other nice features aside from collapsible comments (got no affiliation to them, just a happy user).

RES does this.  I know that&#x27;s not the same thing..

The persistence of collapsing is a killer feature that I wish reddit had.

From what I understood, once you start needing to collapse threads, you&#x27;re already at the threshold of &quot;more comments are detracting from the quality,&quot; or that was the theory, anyway. I&#x27;m almost certainly misremembering.I feel positive about this change though, I just was curious about the decision making process is all, thanks.

Not sure I follow; introducing collapses makes it harder to extend trees (once they&#x27;re collapsed), so wouldn&#x27;t that argument go the other way?In any case, we didn&#x27;t think much about that concern in discussing the new features. We did (and do) worry about whether they will lessen the impact of HN&#x27;s having a single communal front page and threads, now that people can hide and collapse things they don&#x27;t want to see. That&#x27;s something we&#x27;ll try to watch out for, though I&#x27;m not sure how to measure it.

I recall vaguely that one of the reasons for not allowing collapsable comment trees in the past was related to the desire to make it difficult to continue comment trees, which was a good thing (more comments is generally bad, beyond a point, was the underlying philosophy).Does this represent a departure from that philosophy, or was this never part of consideration for the feature?

I think it&#x27;s the brackets. A simple - changing to + would suffice IMHO. Also, it would help my OCD (exaggerating) to auto-collapse if I have visited the page before, instead of collapsing all of the comments.

The comment-collapsing feature is nice, but the big [-] on every comment is somewhat ugly, visually speaking.

You read my mind. I&#x27;d love to see this feature, too.

Try this [0]0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;hckr-news&#x2F;mnlaodleonmmfkdhfofamacceeikgecp?hl=en-US" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;hckr-news&#x2F;mnlaodle...</a>

FYI there&#x27;s a chrome extension for that though not updated in a while and I didn&#x27;t use it personally<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;hn-unread-comments&#x2F;fpndmkcfggkffpablcooicmihgcgalil?hl=en-GB" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;hn-unread-comments...</a><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;janhancic&#x2F;hn-unread-comments" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;janhancic&#x2F;hn-unread-comments</a>

&gt; Really, this is much more vital than just about every feature you&#x27;ve introduced over the last monthsThat is a highly disputable claim, given the overall user feedback we&#x27;ve seen.Such things always remind me of Jerry Weinberg&#x27;s fable about how he couldn&#x27;t sleep because a dripping faucet was driving him crazy. He gets up to fix it in the middle of the night, finally gets back to bed, and... now he can&#x27;t sleep because hears a gate creaking. Moral: when you fix your #1 problem, your #2 problem becomes your #1 problem.

Still, the most urgently needed feature is missing: telling me which comments I haven&#x27;t seen, yet. It&#x27;s a constant nuisance in longer threads. Really, this is much more vital than just about every feature you&#x27;ve introduced over the last months.

Damn it, first bug. Ok will try to reproduce. Can I email you if we can&#x27;t?Edit: this should be fixed now. Thanks!

Was able to reproduce, but only hiding first then last - last then first doesn&#x27;t break things.Was that intuition to test that? Hiding the first then the last story seems an awfully specific test.

When hiding the first and then the last story, this was the result: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;snip-story?onop=news&amp;id=12072827" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;snip-story?onop=news&amp;id=1207282...</a>I guess that&#x27;s not intended...

Welcome Scott. These are all good features, thanks.

We&#x27;ll look into RSSifying this if you&#x27;ll email hn@ycombinator.com to remind us.

Try this:<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.daemonology.net&#x2F;hn-daily&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.daemonology.net&#x2F;hn-daily&#x2F;</a>

Great features!Request: Feature 5 most-popular-by-day is almost exactly what I&#x27;ve wanted for a long time, except in RSS form - a feed that updates once per day with the top 30 stories from the previous day in the order of most time on front page. None of the external HN-specific RSS generators do it quite right.

This is my first favorited story! Thanks dang and HN team!

Reddit does it that way, and I haven&#x27;t seen any of the developers complain about accidental votes.

As it stands, I have already accidentally clicked &quot;ago&quot; and gone to a comment permalink when I wanted to collapse a thread. Not much better.

I feel like it would be worth the trade-off.

But at least now we can undo upvotes&#x2F;downvotes so it&#x27;s not as much of an issue as before!

I&#x27;ve used HN Enhancement Suite for a while, and that really wasn&#x27;t a problem.

That would certainly increase the number of accidental votes.

This would be appreciated here too. The functionality is great but it feels unnatural where it&#x27;s currently positioned.

More generally, can you try to adjust it so that the [-] button doesn’t move around after being clicked?The spacing above the username at the top of the comment shouldn’t change when a thread is collapsed.

I would say: left of the vote button too.

That&#x27;s the behaviour I have on the reader I wrote.
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hack.ernews.info" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hack.ernews.info</a>
Works pretty well

I agree -- the Hacker News Collapse Chrome extension works this way, and I have become accustomed to it.

Making it a slightly bigger target with a dash would also be useful: [–] instead of [-]

yes. it doesn&#x27;t make sense from any design perspective. alignment is an important visual signifier and usability design tool.there is no reason why vote arrows would be aligned across posts (it suggests a connection where there is none), while there are several for the collapse buttons.this is textbook user interface design!

Suggestion: Can you move the collapse button to the left of the username? One way I tend to use nested comment threads is reading all top comments, collapsing as I go.Great stuff, overall -- thanks!

In a similar vein - are there plans to make user favorites accessible through the API? Number of favorites an item has received would be cool too.

Good question! We can look into it if you don&#x27;t mind emailing hn@ycombinator.com.

Will Feature #5 be available through the Firebase API?

Isn&#x27;t it possible to simulate it? Just make a few wrong assumptions, like that the sorting algorithm hadn&#x27;t changed and that the hand assigned penalties were applied all the time, and ...(Alternative: sort by points instead of by time.)

Re: 5&gt; We don&#x27;t have this data before 2014-11-11.Aww bummer. Would have been cool to see what was the new shiny over time. Still a cool feature!

Yay, thank you HN developers, whomever you are! One more Chrome extension I can disable :-)

I think a few minutes would be fine - but it would be nice to still know how I voted after the fact.

An hour seems a good compromise, since one reason you may want to change your vote would be if the post was edited after you voted.An hour provides enough time for the edit to happen, and for you to see it and change your vote.If this is not a target use case and you only want people to be able to undo misclicks, then 5-10 minutes may be adequate.

I&#x27;d agree an hour is too long;  I would only really unvote if it was accidental (ie, immediately) or upon perusing the other comments or data that made me rethink my moderation (which would reasonably be ~5m or so).

I was always under the impression that the reason you couldn&#x27;t undo was purely to encourage putting thought into your votes, instead of clicking after the first sentence, getting through the rest of the post, and looking to take your upvote back.Guess I was wrong. I&#x27;d say 30 seconds should be enough, with this thought in mind =]

That is a subtle point and I was curious if someone would ask about it!Unvote links last for an hour. This is because the main use of voting data is to rank posts, and that&#x27;s time sensitive. If we let people go back and unvote after hours have gone by (let alone years), that would be rewriting history, or counterfactually messing with it.Even an hour is arguably too long. Since the main purpose of this feature is to correct misclicks and over-hasty impulses, a few minutes would probably be enough.

How long does the &quot;unvote&quot; option last?  Permanently?  If I accidentally bump the &quot;unvote&quot; button on a comment that&#x27;s years old, can I re-apply my vote, or only if it&#x27;s an upvote?

That a third party service exists hints that this is a core feature long overdue.

This still doesn&#x27;t address new users, but you can use a third-party service like hnreplies.com.

Having a Reddit-style inbox for responses to comments is urgently overdue. Most new users would never think to click on &quot;threads&quot; to find replies.

&gt;You can collapse comments in threadsOh thank you so much for this.

I&#x27;m glad to see you guys finally got the resources you deserve to make these changes!I&#x27;m also happy you guys are stealing all the best stuff from Reddit and leaving the other stuff behind. Great set of new features!

Welcome to Scott, people have long wondered whether you were using the royal &quot;we&quot;. We&#x27;ll have to start writing &quot;Dan&#x2F;Scott&quot;. :)

dang, this is excellent. thank you so much :)

Why not set a max height for the top-level comment and use overflow CSS?

We did consider that, but sometimes one wants to collapse a very long top-level comment.

&gt; You can collapse comments in threads. If you&#x27;re logged in, collapses persist across page refreshes and devices for a week.This is a nice feature, though I&#x27;d prefer if collapsing preserved the &quot;root&quot; comment and collapsed the responses, rather than hiding the root comment.

1. Awesome. Hm, it&#x27;s kinda close to edit&#x2F;delete button in your own ones. Might be a good idea to separate them a little.2. Nice.3. Kinda convoluted, but neat.4. Kinda pointless. Would be less so if the unhide was accessible with less friction.5. Neat.Hi Scott!

This is awesome. Thank you for all the work you do to keep HN one of the best sites on the web.

Thank you so, so much! Reading anything but the first top level comment was a complete pain on mobile and now I can collapse it to see other discussions. Thanks!

Thanks dang et al. for doing such an absolutely stellar job. Even more than this steady stream of new features, the key thing I&#x27;ve been noticing for the last couple of years is a complete absence of laments about how things have been going downhill. Keep it up!

We do plan to make sure the Internet Archive has every story that gets posted to HN. They made an API for this and at some point (hopefully soon!) we&#x27;ll start calling it. So that will help some.Archiving pages as they were when they were submitted is one of those harder-than-they-seem problems. We spent some time working on it and decided it wasn&#x27;t worth the investment it was clearly going to demand.

Feature request: Cache favorites so they never 404

Posts is an interesting alternative. It has the same verb&#x2F;noun flexibility as comments. But really it is minor, I wondered what &#x27;stories&#x27; was but quickly realized it was things that I had submitted. So I think you should keep what ever you feel is best.Given that you know &quot;when&quot; a thread was collapsed and you know when a given comment was added, there is data available to compute &quot;new since you collapsed it&quot; but I recognize that would an interesting challenge. So you keep the comments in a list, and the list can be internally sorted in date or karma order, then sorting by date you could splice it at the date it was collapsed and compute the length of the two lists (pre-collapse and post-collapse). I have no idea how useful that is, just collapsing huge threads (especially ones that wander off topic) is such a huge win.

Collapses persist even if new comments are added underneath them, though the number of comments in the tree (e.g. &#x27;[+4]&#x27;) will update.Comments are submitted, too, though, so the word &#x27;submission&#x27; seems oddly ambiguous to me. Also, I doubt I&#x27;ve ever anyone say &#x27;submission&#x27; in conversation. People say &quot;story&quot; or &quot;post&quot; and of those two only &quot;story&quot; is unambiguous.(But I&#x27;m happy to change it back if people feel strongly about this! It&#x27;s an amusing lesson in how you can&#x27;t change things without being noticed.)

Users could see stories which they&#x27;ve upvoted, but these were not visible to others. Your favorites will be.

The old &#x27;saved&#x27; list still exists, but has been renamed to &#x27;upvoted&#x27; because that is a more precise name. That list is private—we certainly don&#x27;t want to publish users&#x27; votes.The new &#x27;favorites&#x27; list is for highlighting the best stories and comments you see on HN. That list is shared, because want people to browse each other&#x27;s favorites. The idea is to help disseminate more of the amazing content that people post to Hacker News, much (most?) of which is only seen by a few readers. And I hope that for dedicated HN users it will be fun to curate your own list of highlights, plus see what others have on theirs.Also if the most-favorited stories and comments turn out to be interesting, we&#x27;ll publish those lists.

yeah collapse is nice, but curious what will happen on collapsed thread which is added to...i&#x27;m also confused, wasn&#x27;t there already a &quot;saved&quot; section where upvoted items went previously? seems like all which was done was renamed a few items (and added the favorite which allows marking for later, without giving a vote)

Dang those are some nice features! :-) I really really love the collapse feature. Does the collapse persist across new comments being added or are those not collapsed? We&#x27;ll have to see.And final thought on the stories&#x2F;submissions vs comments the challenge is that comment is both a verb and a noun, you comment, and you can read a comment. Whereas stories is always a noun. Submission is the correct name for something submitted.

Unvoting is a very welcome change. I&#x27;ve misclicked and accidentally downvoted people a few times.

Thank you for the great features! More than the collapsible comments, I&#x27;ll look forward to people&#x27;s favourite list :D

Same story here. Actually, I think all of these new features would work without JS, using just CSS, except retaining collapsed threads across page loads (although given that CSS is technically Turing complete it is probably possible if the state were persisted server-side, which you can do with an html form; personally I would just use JS and cut my hosting costs). Check out this demo of CSS-only HTML:<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;codepen.io&#x2F;ekrof&#x2F;pen&#x2F;YqmXdQ&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;codepen.io&#x2F;ekrof&#x2F;pen&#x2F;YqmXdQ&#x2F;</a>

I&#x27;ve been using HN with JavaScript disabled and it has worked fine until today. Only thing that didn&#x27;t work for me was search.But these new features require JS and that&#x27;s fine with me. Not all JS is evil.

Looks like this means HN&#x27;s JavaScript is no longer just a single short script tag&#x27;s worth. Definitely welcome changes, and thanks to those involved.

For #2, on mobile I&#x27;m constantly down-voting when I mean to up-vote, and vice-versa. (Before HN officially supported mobile, I sometimes ended up voting when I was just trying to zoom in!)Taking a chance that people might not &quot;think before voting&quot; seems well worth it to remove a bunch of random noise generated by unintended clicks.

Just giving my feedback. Don&#x27;t really care how it&#x27;s used, or even if at all.

Tough crowd. I think all of them have their uses. The good news is you don&#x27;t have to use them and how others use them is not really your problem. You&#x27;re speaking about &#x27;people&#x27; as if you speak for others, when in reality you only speak for yourself.

&gt;#2 Without this feature, people are encouraged to think before voting, and only vote when they mean it.People weren&#x27;t doing that before. When they weren&#x27;t voting for any pedantic or pettyreason they wanted, they were also unintentionally voting the wrong way because the arrows are just too small. Having a feature be irreversible doesn&#x27;t somehow cause people to be more thoughtful about using it.&gt;#3 Without this feature, people are encouraged to use HN as a transient source of news and intellectual discussion, and not twitter.People might be interested in what stories certain people find interesting. But it&#x27;s just making a public version of an existing private feature (saving stories when you upvote them) so I don&#x27;t think it would be that big a change in the way people have been using the site for a while now.&gt;#4 Without this feature, people are encouraged to go away and do real stuff until enough time has passed that the front page is new again.Again - they weren&#x27;t really doing that before. They were, however, complaining endlessly about stories they didn&#x27;t want to see overwhelming the front page and comments section. Now that&#x27;s a solvable problem. You don&#x27;t have to see stories or comments on stories you don&#x27;t want to see, and the people who want to see them don&#x27;t have to deal with arguments about those stories&#x27; legitimacy.&gt;#5 Without this feature, people are encouraged to read or discuss an article based on its own merits, not just what appeals most to hivemind upvotes.Maybe, although if they really want to encourage people not to act according to the hivemind (or, really, hiveminds, since there&#x27;s more than one) they could do things like getting rid of visible scores, or letting users choose default sorts other than karma, or introduce more randomness into the front page (although dang said he tried that and the results weren&#x27;t good.)Or a really hard problem - how to get people to actually read the articles and not comment on the titles alone?

These mostly seem like bad ideas:#1 This is the only good feature listed. It helps people skim comment threads for a relevant discussion.#2 Without this feature, people are encouraged to think before voting, and only vote when they mean it.#3 Without this feature, people are encouraged to use HN as a transient source of news and intellectual discussion, and not twitter.#4 Without this feature, people are encouraged to go away and do real stuff until enough time has passed that the front page is new again.#5 Without this feature, people are encouraged to read or discuss an article based on its own merits, not just what appeals most to hivemind upvotes.

&gt; &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;&gt;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;&gt;</a>I see this bug&#x27;s still hanging in there.

From your comment, I was curious whether they were pulling the results from Algolia behind the scenes. The result sets for a given day look to be pretty different with Algolia being ordered by points purely.Front [0](92 stories hit the front page)Top 10:<pre><code> 1. Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years
 2. Tell HN: New features and a moderator
 3. Restoring Y Combinator&#x27;s Xerox Alto, day 3: Inside the disk drive
 4. Riffle: an efficient communication system with strong anonymity
 5. Hacker News&#x27; “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations
 6. Chalice: Python Serverless Microframework for AWS
 7. Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF
 8. A Glimpse into the Apollo Guidance Computer
 9. Errol Morris&#x27;s Secret Weapon for Unsettling Interviews: The Interrotron
 10. Friends are as genetically similar as fourth cousins
</code></pre>
Algolia [1](885 stories)Top 10:<pre><code> 1. Tell HN: New features and a moderator
 2. Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years
 3. Pokemon Go is a huge security risk
 4. How we&#x27;re scammed into eating phony food
 5. Pokémon GO: The Data Behind America’s Latest Obsession
 6. Announcing TypeScript 2.0 Beta
 7. Elixir 1.3.1 released
 8. Hedge Fund Wants to Use Atomic Clocks to Beat High-Speed Traders
 9. A beginners guide to thinking in SQL
 10. Hacker News&#x27; “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations
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Note: The Algolia date picker doesn&#x27;t seem to like you starting and ending on the same day. It changes start date to the day before, so perhaps this is including a little more than one day of data.[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;front?day=2016-07-11" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;front?day=2016-07-11</a>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=&amp;sort=byPopularity&amp;prefix&amp;page=0&amp;dateRange=custom&amp;type=story&amp;dateStart=1468195200&amp;dateEnd=1468281600" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=&amp;sort=byPopularity&amp;prefix&amp;page...</a>

What I find more annoying is that it&#x27;s on the right hand side even though all the other actions (vote on post, vote on comment, reply) are on the left hand side. Seems like a trivial thing but that is annoying quite a bit.&gt;&gt;&gt; 5. Find out which stories were the most popular on HN on a given day by visiting &#x2F;front?day=yyyy-mm-dd. You&#x27;ll see all the front page stories for that day, sorted by how much time they spent there. For example, Alan Kay&#x27;s AMA had the most front page time on June 20: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;front?day=2016-06-20" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;front?day=2016-06-20</a>That&#x27;s cool, I guess, but algolia &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;&gt;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;&gt;</a> seems like a much better tool for the task.

I run a site called Product Pains where people can post and vote on feedback for any product. Several people have contributed to feedback about Hacker News. Interestingly, the top post is &quot;Make comments collapsable&quot;.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;productpains.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;hacker-news" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;productpains.com&#x2F;product&#x2F;hacker-news</a>Hacker News stands out to me as a product that could be significantly improved through aggregated user feedback. I encourage others to contribute and Dan + Scott (Welcome!) to subscribe to feedback.Thanks for the improvements.

Yay. I often find threads where I have an educated guess that there will valuable comments but the thread is very new, not many comments yet, ends up as yet another HN tab that I left open and then go through them all once or twice a week... Although maybe that&#x27;s not a bad thing - that saves tons of time ;)

The simple hack I use in my own extension to provide that feature on reddit without Gold just simply logs the timestamp of every visit of the thread in a cookie, and then allows to select &quot;new comments since visit X&quot;, and then just computes the comment time back into a timestamp, compares, highlights.If HN would provide the actual timestamp in ISO format, as reddit does it, we could&#x27;ve had that a lot simpler a lot earlier.

Thank you so much for these new features! They make using HN a much better experience.

Yes. Another user has argued for this effectively and persuaded us to do some version of it.

Great features, thanks!The one feature I can&#x27;t believe I lived without that the HN Enhancement Suite chrome extension provides, is highlighting unread comments since your last visit. It actually makes it worthwhile revisiting e.g. a 200 comment thread when there are now 300 comments without just reading all the same comments again and being unable to spot the new ones.If it became supported cross device by HN itself I would be very grateful.

Opened a ticket with the things I&#x27;ve found so far.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;etcet&#x2F;HNES&#x2F;issues&#x2F;117" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;etcet&#x2F;HNES&#x2F;issues&#x2F;117</a>

I&#x27;ll work on it once I get home tonight. I must be the only one who hates to hear of new HN features :)

Can confirm.Hopefully, the extension will be updated soon.

All good stuff. The HackerNews Enhancement Suite plugin for Chrome really borks the page the now!<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;CXaHIqO" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;CXaHIqO</a>

On a related note, I wonder how well an Arc implementation on top of (the newly freed) Chez Scheme would work.

Love the changes and thanks for the un-feature. My only wish now is making the up &#x2F; down arrows bigger, but the un might just make that a moot point.Is this still written in Arc?

Ok - let&#x27;s give it a go and see if it works!

You needn&#x27;t! But we hope it will create an interesting new way to find excellent stuff on HN that one otherwise wouldn&#x27;t have seen. So much content—both good and bad, of course, but much of it superb—streams through this site that no one can see it all. Not even those of us whose job it is to monitor it.Maybe this is just my jaded moderator perspective, but it sometimes feels like more attention gets paid to the bad stuff on HN (the latest flamewar, the latest shockingly offensive something-or-other) than to the brilliant, often quietly brilliant stuff that shows up here every day. That&#x27;s clearly backwards, so we need new ways to give the best posts the attention they deserve. Shared favorites lists are one effort in that area.

3 doesn&#x27;t ring true - why should I care what anyone favorites?

Coming from HN Enhancement Suite add-on I too found this annoying.

That site is reddit, and they too introduced collapsing on the right side of the name. I have faith that HN will change it!

+1Perhaps also adding the first line (truncated if need be) of the Parent&#x27;s comment would be a nice addition also?It would help when scanning all the collapsed comments and seeing some context other than the Parent&#x27;s username?Nevertheless these enhancements are much appreciated!

Easily solved with some margin and padding, heck maybe even a media query for the mobile users!

To be honest I would rather have the vote arrow moved somewhere else. I&#x27;m often more interested in collapsing a comment thread than voting. I&#x27;m not sure if this is something only I care about though.

So why not switching these two, putting the vote arrow on the right and the collapse button on the left?  
The tree controls I know all work that way that the collapse button is on the left.

&gt; The undo vote feature would no doubt help with that someAs long as the user is aware of the misclick, I don&#x27;t see this as a likely problem, personally. Awareness of the misclick is, in my opinion, quite likely, given that they will see the arrows disappear and won&#x27;t observe the expected thread collapse.

The vote arrows really could use some size&#x2F;distinction love on mobile.A subreddit I was on recently (sorry, can&#x27;t recall which) has styled the collapse-sensitive region to be the entire indent region of a comment block. This is actually unbelievably awesome.

The HN app I use lets you click anywhere in the heading line to collapse&#x2F;expand.  Could you do the same here?

If you&#x27;re going with mobile in mind, would you consider replacing &quot;-&quot; and &quot;+&quot; with &quot;collapse&quot; and &quot;expand&quot;? Trying to hit one character on mobile can be frustrating.

The argument against that is that with the collapse button so close to the vote arrow, we would be guaranteed to get misvotes, especially on mobile. The undo vote feature would no doubt help with that some, but only so much.

I actually prefer it at the end, as HN uses the same (or very similar) theming for Desktop and Mobile. Before Reddit redid their mobile experience, having voting buttons next to collapse meant many inadvertent votes when trying to collapse on mobile.Until HN has a good mobile theme by default, I&#x27;d prefer collapse and voting buttons to be well separated from one another.

That&#x27;s precisely the hack I mentioned a few comments back on ... some subreddit somewhere.Essentially, the left-hand indent zones are collapse regions for the post topping that level of the hierarcy. It&#x27;s sheer brilliance.Can&#x27;t find the sub, though I&#x27;ve looked for it. I thought it was a science one. Maybe politics -- somewhere I don&#x27;t often go. Hrm, no, not there either.

100% agree with when the desire to collapse a thread occurs.I think this old reference is on par with your comment, at least it&#x27;s how I view and agree with it.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11355675" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11355675</a>Realizing many comments down that you are wading into unwanted territory makes the side column incredibly useful to pulling the rip cord as it were.Each comment has a significant vertical footprint(at least 2 lines after the upvote triangle) on mobile so maybe this opinion is biased, but I am also of the mindset that users shouldn&#x27;t be alienated to a separate app to cover a relatively simple wart removal.Heck, having a visible column in the left position to flick up or down for a collapse or return to parent becomes increasingly useful. But now I&#x27;m on a new tangent.

For me, at least, the most frequent use case for collapsing a thread is in the middle of it, when the discussion has veered off into territory in which I have no interest. In this case, I need to either scroll back up and find the originating post of the thread in order to collapse it, or scroll down until I find the beginning of the next thread.What I&#x27;d like to see is a control that takes advantage of this right-side position of the collapse button to add something like the following, perhaps only visible on rollover:<pre><code> [-] all
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In which the `all` link collapses all the way up to that thread&#x27;s OP, immediately revealing the next thread below.

I can confirm, I personally implemented a reddit-like app and started with the [-] on the right. Realized that it was really annoying and placed it on the left.

You mean seek the collapse button linearly. :)

Similarly, I&#x27;ve been using the userscript version of this (or at least something similar to this if it isn&#x27;t the same) now available at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;greasyfork.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;scripts&#x2F;2960-hacker-news-collapsible-comments" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;greasyfork.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;scripts&#x2F;2960-hacker-news-collapsib...</a>

I&#x27;ve been using this handy Chrome extension for years. It places the collapse button in front of the username.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;andrewheins&#x2F;HN-Comment-Hider" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;andrewheins&#x2F;HN-Comment-Hider</a>

I was going to say the same thing. On mobile, hitting collapsing or unvoting is 50&#x2F;50 right now.

I like the button well separated from voting buttons. It&#x27;s still too close to the &quot;unvote&quot; text, on mobile, which needs considerable love.

&gt; The new collapse button is at the end of the comment. This means that the collapse button&#x27;s position on the page changes based on username length and duration wordingexact same thing happened on reddit when the feature was introduced

This. It took me a minute to find the collapse link, but once I found it... What a time to be alive.

A piece of kludgecode for Greasemonkey[Firefox] or TamperMonkey[Chrome&#x2F;Chromium]. The script will all move the collapse links to the left margin on this page:<pre><code> &#x2F;&#x2F; ==UserScript==
 &#x2F;&#x2F; @name move_collapse_link
 &#x2F;&#x2F; @namespace com.kludgecode.hn.demo
 &#x2F;&#x2F; @include https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12073675
 &#x2F;&#x2F; @version 1
 &#x2F;&#x2F; @grant none
 &#x2F;&#x2F; @run-at document-end
 &#x2F;&#x2F; ==&#x2F;UserScript==

 window.$destination = document.getElementsByClassName(&#x27;comtr&#x27;);
 window.$source = document.getElementsByClassName(&#x27;togg&#x27;);

 for (var i = 0; i &lt; $source.length; i++) {
 var row = $destination[i].getElementsByTagName(&#x27;tr&#x27;)[0];
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Modifying the @include line by replacing the query portion of the URI with an asterisk, will cause the code to run on all HN &quot;story&quot; pages. Matters of preference ought to be within the users control. I like Greasemonkey&#x2F;Tampermonkey because suddenly a lot of things are.

I have a piece of feedback.The new collapse button is at the end of the comment. This means that the collapse button&#x27;s position on the page changes based on username length and duration wording (hours Vs. minutes, etc).One nice thing about other websites which I won&#x27;t name, is that you can read and collapse all of the top comments without having to &quot;seek&quot; the collapse button constantly. You can literally scroll and collapse as you read, it is always in the same spot.The functionality is most welcomed, and I&#x27;d take this design over not having it. But it could be slightly better with a subtle design change.

Ok, now I&#x27;m wondering how many flag reports HNs is getting now that I accidentally hit it twice. :)

The &quot;hide&quot; new stories feature is awesome. Thanks for rolling this out. High five!

Would undoing votes be (as) necessary if the UI didn&#x27;t lend itself to mis-voting? Especially on a touch device, the two buttons are a real challenge to deal with.

Maybe you could complete your data with what would have been scrapped &#x2F; archived at the time. Though I don&#x27;t know if there&#x27;s such a dataset for this timeframe (pre Nov. 2014)

I have historical rankings for all major list pages (&#x2F;news, &#x2F;news?p=2, &#x2F;active, &#x2F;best, &#x2F;classic, etc) since 2014-05-05, if it&#x27;s helpful. Currently 27MM records.

Alas, we only started tracking this data in November 2014.

I use Pinboard. FWIW, I also write one of the more popular iOS apps for it. :P<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lionheartsw.com&#x2F;software&#x2F;pushpin&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lionheartsw.com&#x2F;software&#x2F;pushpin&#x2F;</a>

Which bookmarking service do you use, just curious?

Thanks, folks, for the great improvements!1. The time-capsule feature is really cool. Traveling back in time to see what sort of tech people were building &#x2F; what other things were on the front page when X popular product launched is going to be so much fun. Update: it only goes back about a year and a half. See below.2. Undoing votes has also been something I&#x27;ve wanted for a long time. I&#x27;ve accidentally downvoted&#x2F;upvoted more times than I&#x27;d like to count when using my phone.3. I currently use a bookmarking service to keep track of posts I want to save on HN, but native favoriting is much better. :)Also, welcome, Scott!--Edit: I tried to view the front page [1] on the day I launched Breakup Notifier [2] ~5 years ago, but I get an error message. Is there any way you HN wizards can add the ability to go back further in time?&gt; We don&#x27;t have this data before 2014-11-11.[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;front?day=2011-02-21" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;front?day=2011-02-21</a>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=2243650" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=2243650</a>

Good catch. That&#x27;s probably a side effect of job ads being treated differently in the code. We&#x27;ll look into fixing it.

I love the hiding feature, thank you. I did noticed I can&#x27;t hide YC company &quot;hiring&quot; posts.Ex: &quot;GitLab is hiring a security engineer (gitlab.com)&quot;

Answered here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12074272" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12074272</a>.

Can collapse only collapse the replies and not collapse the comment?

That&#x27;s a bug: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12074233" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12074233</a>.Edit: should be fixed now.

Just curious - why are things like &quot;Gitlab is hiring&quot; not hideable? I don&#x27;t plan to apply for a job there, so I don&#x27;t care to see that story anymore today. But I don&#x27;t see a way to hide it.

favorites will save me a ton of karma, so I no longer have to post as breadcrumbs to a great idea. thanks for that.

Please make the Up and Down arrows 3-4 times larger and put a square around them that changes colour when it&#x27;s hovered.Thanks a lot for these useful additions though!EDIT: An image says 1000 words (slight exaggerated): <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;LKyUaSl" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;LKyUaSl</a>

I&#x27;ve been playing around with the &#x27;hide&#x27; feature on the new page for a bit and I&#x27;ve developed a simple workflow to help catch spam:Look at a submission, decide whether to just ignore it, upvote it, flag it as spam or open a tab and leave a comment or to watch it for later.Then &#x27;hide&#x27; the submission. Like that you can easily keep track of what you&#x27;ve seen and what still needs to be looked at.You could use the same method for the homepage.It&#x27;s a super useful feature.Thanks Dan &amp; Scott!

How about a feature &quot;mark all read&quot; (on the frontpage)?

The Hide feature will help with tangent arguments that add little to discussion. The vote change will help with long-time problem of people clicking wrong button. Great improvements. :)

Option to hide viewed articles. I had a plugin that did it but as I view from different browsers would be good to not have to download that plugin every time.

Today we&#x27;d like to introduce five features and one moderator.1. You can collapse comments in threads. If you&#x27;re logged in, collapses persist across page refreshes and devices for a week.2. You can tell which way you voted and undo a vote if you want. An &#x27;unvote&#x27; or &#x27;undown&#x27; link appears after a post&#x27;s timestamp when you vote.3. Save and share the best stories and comments. Click on a post&#x27;s timestamp to go to its page, then click &#x27;favorite&#x27; at the top. Your favorites are linked from your profile, and you can browse other users&#x27; from theirs.4. On the front page and &#x2F;newest, click &#x27;hide&#x27; if you no longer want to see a story. The next story in the list will slide up at the bottom. If you change your mind, visit &#x2F;hidden and click &#x27;unhide&#x27;. If you&#x27;re logged in, hidden stories persist for a week.5. Find out which stories were the most popular on HN on a given day by visiting &#x2F;front?day=yyyy-mm-dd. You&#x27;ll see all the front page stories for that day, sorted by how much time they spent there. For example, Alan Kay&#x27;s AMA had the most front page time on June 20: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;front?day=2016-06-20.Finally, I&#x27;m pleased to introduce sctb, a.k.a. Scott Bell, as a Hacker News moderator. Scott has been moderating HN incognito for a long time, but starting today he and I will be sharing the public part of the job. Since Scott is familiar with all aspects of HN moderation, you shouldn&#x27;t notice any changes in practice; this is just an internal refactoring to enable such innovations as vacations and a day off. Scott is my cofounder from Skysheet (YC W09), an excellent programmer with a meticulous eye for detail, and a thoroughly decent human being. Please welcome him and be nice!